Blue Cross Millionaires Are Scared to Compete With a Public Plan

by: Dean Baker, t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Blue Cross Millionaires Are Scared to Compete With a Public Plan
A Blue Cross building in North Carolina. The health insurance company is running inaccurate television ads warning people against the prospect of a public health care option. (Photo: Bill Warren)

    The boys running the show at Blue Cross in North Carolina are running scared. They're worried that President Obama is going to treat them like autoworkers and make them actually compete in the market. The Blue Cross boys think that they belong in the same league as the Wall Street bankers and should just be allowed to collect their multi-million-dollar salaries without being forced to worry about things like competition.

    The basic story is that Blue Cross of North Carolina decided to jump the gun on President Obama and Congress and start running television ads telling people how awful a public health care plan would be. According to the ads, people enrolled in the public health care plan wouldn't have a choice of doctors, would face long waiting periods for appointments and procedures and would not even be able to get a clerk to answer questions on billing.

    That sounds pretty awful, but if it were true, you have to wonder why Blue Cross of North Carolina is so worried. After all, President Obama is not proposing that anyone would be forced to join a public plan. He just proposed that people have the option to buy into a public plan. Is Blue Cross of North Carolina really that terrified that it will be unable to compete with a public plan that doesn't let patients choose their doctor, subjects them to long waits and doesn't answer questions about billing?

    Of course, if the ads being planned by Blue Cross of North Carolina were accurate, then it would not be concerned about a public plan. The reason that Blue Cross of North Carolina is running the ads is that it knows the ads are not true. There is no reason to think that a public plan will offer less choice, require longer waits or provide poorer service than a private plan, like Blue Cross of North Carolina. And there are reasons for believing that a public plan might cost considerably less.

    Specifically, the administrative expenses of a public plan like Medicare are far lower than the expenses for Blue Cross of North Carolina. According to its Annual Report, Blue Cross of North Carolina spent almost 15 percent of its premiums on administrative expenses in 2008. That came to more than $1.8 billion. This money would have been enough to cover the costs of insuring almost 600,000 kids through the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). Just five years earlier, Blue Cross of North Carolina spent more than 22 percent of premiums on administrative expenses.

    By comparison, Medicare spends only about 2 percent of its revenue on administrative expenses. Unlike Blue Cross of North Carolina, Medicare doesn't earn profits and doesn't pay high salaries to its top executives. According to the Raleigh News and Observer, Robert J. Greczyn Jr., the chief executive of Blue Cross of North Carolina, earned $3.2 million in 2007. That's enough to pay for a year's worth of SCHIP for 1,000 kids. Other top executives also drew salaries well in excess of $1 million, a pay range that exceeds the top levels in the public sector by an order of magnitude.

    Given the high salaries that Blue Cross of North Carolina pays its top executives and the other administrative expenses that it bears as a result of being a private sector plan with high overhead, it is not surprising that it would be afraid of a public plan. A public plan would likely charge much lower prices, thereby pulling away a large share of Blue Cross of North Carolina's business. Insofar as it was able to hold on to its patients, Blue Cross of North Carolina would probably be forced to lower its prices - slashing its profit margins - in order to be able to compete. This is not a happy picture for any business: fewer customers and lower profit margins.

    The answer, of course, is tough love. We just have to tell Blue Cross of North Carolina than it will have to learn to compete. If it can't beat out a public plan in market competition, then the public and the economy would be better served if it went into another line of business.

    Bankers may have enough political power that they can milk the government without limits. However, this may not prove to be true for the health insurers. If President Obama continues to push for a public plan, the good folks running Blue Cross of North Carolina and the other insurers may actually have to work for their paychecks.

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Dean Baker is a macroeconomist and co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington, DC. He previously worked as a senior economist at the Economic Policy Institute and an assistant professor at Bucknell University. He is a regular Truthout columnist and a member of Truthout's Board of Advisers.


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At some point, it would seem

At some point, it would seem that folks would see that the rest of the industrialized world enjoys better health care, longer lives and less infant mortality than we do. We, however, have this ingrained notion that in all endeavors, we are superior to everyone else and that our way of life will be extended world-wide. This hubris is the cause of our health-care crisis and, at least until recently, politicians have convinced the voting public that lower taxes and less government will solve all problems. To the point that people would rather pay thousands of dollars more in insurance premiums to save a few hundred on taxes. I hope Obama will keep this promise of single-payer health care but I'm not too optimistic after the recent pow-wow where he was promised that health costs would be contained by the CEOs who profit from the current system. This promise has been made before and the HMOs and medical professionals making fat salaries have always prevailed. Let's hope the aging baby boomer tsunami will force reform with large numbers of people (who vote) face the devastation of bankruptcy and early death under our current system. For years we've been threatened with rationing of health care if we go to a single-payer system. As growing numbers of people are finding out, rationing already exists.


Rationing always exists, US

Rationing always exists, US citizens & taxpayers just want it more fairly rationed=+$->healthcare instead of +$Mceo &administrators. Thousands of US citizens DIE each year because of private insurance-> 3rd world predatory capitalism here in the US.Their great OMISSION is that NO ONE IS EVER PREVENTED FROM BUYING MORE CARE/OPTIONAL CARE IF THEY WANT TO.Pre/post/Jruss really says it so well.[Private insurers´ last defense will be all the jobs they will lose to 1-payer!]


A single-payer system is the

A single-payer system is the option that saves us all the MOST money now wasted on administrative costs/bureaucracy. You'd go to any doctor or hospital in the nation, a far broader choice than through an HMO. The health care providers would remain privately owned and run but fees would be annually negotiated with the government to keep costs down. 50 million uninsured and 50 million under-insured would be able to access care. A pre-existing condition would not prevent you from joining the national system. Life expectancy in the US is lower (and infant mortality rate is higher) than Australia, France, Canada, Germany, Japan, Sweden, and the UK, while our per capital expenditure on health care in the US is nearly double theirs and the percentage of our GDP spent on health care is 5% higher. The insurance companies won't allow the single-payer advocates a place at the table, and those politicians who receive huge campaign donations from these corporations don't seem willing to stand up to them and allow a more fiscally sensible future to be presented. We have socialized fire departments. Shall we privatize them and only those that can afford the rising annual fees would be protected by the fire fighting corporation, while their less affluent neighbor's house is allowed to burn to the ground?


Please let me know as soon

Please let me know as soon as the public plan is available so that I can sign up. I and my family have had multiple problems with "the greatest health care money can buy". As a social worker and compassionate person, I am sick of seeing people losing their teeth, developing chronic diseases, and exposing others to illness due to the lack of health insurance and affordable alternatives. In fact, for a considerable percentage of the U.S. population there is no such thing as affordable insurance. When will we learn that this country lives on the principle (discredited by facts but not in the minds of those in power who live by it) stated by their guru Milton Friedman that "the social responsibility of business is profit". Profit, not the health of individuals or the country, not clean water or air, not even liberty and freedom for all. No, for capitalists and their politicians the one goal, such that they have the cynical nerve to call it their "social responsibility", is profit.


I don't have much faith that

I don't have much faith that Obama will really push for a public health care option. So far, the only thing proposed is to remove the employer deduction for health insurance. That's a HUGE payroll tax increase. The employer and employee combined pays 15.3% in payroll tax. For the average $12,000 per year family health plan, that's an extra $1,836 in taxes even before adding income tax. I'm hoping that Obama will ease restriction on travel to Cuba so that Americans can optain good, reasonably priced care in that island nation.


An even better solution

An even better solution would be to increase the number of places in medical schools. If ever there was a closed shop operating restrictive practices, this is it. Can anyone really believe that it is only those who can actually jump all the hurdles to get in medical school who are capable of becoming doctors? An increase in the number of doctors would reduce the upward pressure on fees - it's called supply and demand - and might actually force some of them to move into rural areas. Then more doctors would mean more hospitals having to compete with each other for patients. Good heavens, more market forces. The possibilities are endless! How about an anti-trust investigation into the whole issue of recruiting medical students?


Re: the BEST argument for

Re: the BEST argument for "single-payer" and MAJOR reform of the present "system". . .I watched a TV ad yesterday promoting an "affordable health care insurance program". . .I went to the website and discovered it was an insurance "brokerage" site. . .offering to "find the best insurance plan for YOU!" I created a fictitious working-class family of with two teenage kids. And, filled out the forms. . .within minutes I had EIGHTY-SIX different plans offered to me through a dozen different providers. . .for monthly premiums ranging from a "bare bones" plan at $300 per month (coverages NOT worth "spit!") on up to a "Cadillac" plan for almost $2,000 per month (that had so many loopholes in it that Detroit could make a "comeback" just making SUPER-LARGE vehicles to drive through them!) And, my phone began ringing as THREE companies contacted me, attempting to sell me a plan. And, interestingly, NONE of them had any "printed material" to send me as I told them I wanted "time to review their plan" before making a decision. ALL told me something to the effect of "You can trust us because WE have YOUR best interest at heart! And, want to provide YOU with a "first-class plan" that will meet your family's SPECIFIC needs for worry-free health coverage! However, we can ONLY offer this plan IFYOU ACT IMMEDIATELY!!!!" And, if you believe ANYTHING these clowns are saying, I can offer you a great deal on a large bridge on either the East or West Coast! Your choice. . .but, YOU MUST ACT IMMEDIATELY! , he says with a leer as he twirls his moustache!


Health insurance companies

Health insurance companies aren't in the business of providing health care, they're in the business of denying health care... in order to make big profits. First time, I ever put in a claim on my BCBS policy, I received a standardized response letter, "pre-existing condition not elegible." Not eligible!... for food poisoning. A pre-existing condition?... thought I'd never been in a hospital or treated for anything like it. It was their knee jerk response... even though I was going to pay 90% plus of the cost because of my deductable. And, when I went for a checkup afterwards, and my doc sent me for some tests and said I was at an age that I should have a colonoscopy... presto, again, all claims denied. Off course, when the deductible time elapsed and had gone back to zero, where I was on the hook for all expenses, miraculously, everything was approved. We need a public health care "single-payer" system to provide every citizen with an option to these health care obstuctionists who profit from denying coverage, wasting our time, and ripping us off.


When will people begin to

When will people begin to realize that these out-of-control executive and board of director compensation packages and bonuses and stock deals and other perks really do affect the bottom line. Everyone acts like a guy making 5000 an hour is not a big deal. Yet they freak out when the plumber or mechanic tells them he charges $50 an hour. Or they complain about "over-paid" legislators...the President makes $40oK a year or less than $200 an hour. For every million and executive earns per year, it works out to almost $500 an hour. Multiply that times 15 mil which a lot of VPs make and you see over $7000 an hour!! 25 workers earning $40k a year only comes to $1 Mil. It's time to stop the madness and greed.


We have monetized the health

We have monetized the health with this system of health insurance......I doubt anything can be done given the present state of affairs. Remember "money talks" . Whoever lacks the power of the money simply is out of the loop. I am so frustrated paying such as high premiums and receiving less and less. The insurance policies with so many deductions and rejectios becuase "there is not sufficient scientific data" to use this test or that one". Or a group of scientists have reviewed your "appeal"and decided that the treatment is not recommended. Hundred of excuses for not paying but few reasons for increasing the cost of the policy by at least 10 per cent every years....because for every year of age there is an increase. When one has a"milking system" like this one just want to keep it. 4o million without health care........who cares? Congressmen/women have a very good health care system. They have no reason to worry much about those who do not have it.


I don't think Blue Cross has

I don't think Blue Cross has to worry as long as they can continue to buy Congress. The latest committee hearings on health care refused to even discuss single-payer. The only way the rest of us might get help is if Congress had its free health care take away and then each member came down with a serious disease. After they found out their private insurance chose their treatments instead of their doctors--and of course chose the cheapest or none at all--they might change their minds.


"An even better solution"

"An even better solution" (anonymous) is naive if he/she thinks that the doctors are part of the problem. There is no shortage of providers or hospital beds. There is a vast system of insurance and paharmaceutical industry that has a propaganda system that is so sophisticated that (anonymous) doesn't even realize he/she is being had. Big time. More doctors, fewer doctors, nurse practitioners, 5-year medical schools, "doctors of nursing practice" ( there's a good one for you) wont make any difference. Realizing that the insurers and "big Pharma" own the FDA and Congress, will set you on the path to correcting this travesty. But then John Q Public will have to accept much more individual responsibility than he has in the past.


All insurance millionaires

All insurance millionaires are scared to compete. So they don't. The following is an eye-opener for those who haven't figured it out yet: http://news.aol.com/article/the-influence-game-health-lobbyist-has/496710?cid=14 (THE INFLUENCE GAME: Health lobbyist has great sway) If we who want single-payer could pile on each of our Representatives and Senators every day with e-mail, and just incidentally add daily messages to the health-care lobby: http://www.ahip.org/ we might have a chance with a show of strength in numbers.


The only competition they

The only competition they engage in is with the investment bankers, credit card issuers, military defense contractors for lobbyists & who can pay the least to get the most Congresspeople & administration members in their pockets.


I didn't have the money to

I didn't have the money to pay my insurance bill this month so gave up my policy. It cost me $1480 a month for one person. I paid my mortgage instead. I am over 50 and can't find a job, although one may have little to do with the other. I have had a cancer and am scared and sleepless thinking about what will happen. You may be thinking, oh there's another one of those deadbeats who is going to use the emergency room and not pay his bills and the premiums on your employer-supported insurance will go up. No, if something happens I will use my retirement and sell my house. Don't worry. And don't hold your breath for a public plan, I'm not. I genuinely don't think bring-them-all-to the-table Obama will fight for this. And I surely don't think the Senate Democrats will fight for this. And I think it is obscene that the CEO of Blue Cross Blue Shield of anywhere is paid this much money. Oh well, c'est la vie.


It's almost riotously funny

It's almost riotously funny that the for-profit health (illness) insurance industry is wailing and gnashing its teeth at the prospect of a public option for health insurance. Their whining that they "can't compete" with a government-run insurance provider is glaring admission that "private, for-profit" is NOT more efficient/effective than a not-for-profit government plan. The "free-markets/private enterprise" propaganda mantra that has been so loudly and persistently proclaimed as superior by those who profit from private business is shown by their own arguments to be a scam. BC/BS used to be chartered for tax purposes as non-profits in every state, and to avoid much regulation under state insurance laws, they also were chartered as "medical expense pre-payment plans" rather than health INSURANCE plans. They have a long history of paying obscene salaries to their top executives, and piling up "retained earnings" (profits) that they were not taxed on.


I have been a provider for

I have been a provider for 23 years. I find it utterly ridiculous that we have allowed insurance to dictate us our health choices! We pay these idiots millions to make us beg for our health. Things need to change. But we need to change more than just the payer. We need to change the face of our health. Food with nutrition in it, rather than empty calories and toxins. Our toxic load today is at its highest levels and people are getting sicker each day as a result. Natural healthcare has alot to offer. I have successfully been able to see people with chronic disorders improve when they were not expected to see any improvement.


US Healthcare still involves

US Healthcare still involves leeches - only now they call them "Insurance Companies" or "HMOs'! The health insurance racket makes its money from denials. The difference between a government bureaucrat deciding your claim and a private bureaucrat deciding your claim is the government bureaucrat doesn't have his bonus riding on how many denials he can issue! I'd prefer single payer, but at least a public option would be nice. Then I could realistically think about going into business for myself without worrying that I (and anyone I hire) will lose everything, or die, due to lack of affordable coverage. Our current "system" is killing small business, and is a boat anchor around even large companies' necks when competing in the global marketplace.


The short answer is that the

The short answer is that the private health insurance industry is not about health - it's about profiting on the misfortunes and illnesess of the American people. As such, it is immoral and needs to be dismantled. Hopefully it will die of attrition if Obama's plan is good enough.


I'm from across the pond, so

I'm from across the pond, so I don't know much about Blue Cross, but I have read that the US health insurers are fighting Obama's universal health plans every step of the way. You may have seen ads telling you how dreadful our National Health Service is, featuring a prominent UK cancer expert Dr Karol Sikora. You may therefore also be interested in the coverage that shows him being shown to make other fraudulent claims too. http://nhsblogdoc.blogspot.com/2009/05/imperial-college-disowns-karol-sikora.html More honestly, he is Dean of Medicine at Buckingham University, the only private university in the UK. Set up in the 1980s on the US model, and encouraged by Margaret Thatcher, it depends on student fees for almost all its income but has seen student numbers fall by just over 30% between 1995 and 2004. So not a flourishing business model. A topical comedy show on BBC radio has a character who claims to be the Professor of Ignorance at Buckingham University. Do not let Karol Sikora and his strange take on funding, either medical or educational, damage your best chance yet for an equitable health care system!


If you happen to have Blue

If you happen to have Blue Cross employer provided insurance, and you are healthy like me, you might as well not have any insurance whatsoever. No preventive care is covered! Had a physical last summer that ended up costing me $600 out of my own pocket. Blue Cross didn't cover a penny, let alone a dime.


Well, ain't it sweet... the

Well, ain't it sweet... the crap America forced down the throats of developing countries (public health care doubleplus ungood) is now haunting you all - what goes around comes around... perhaps North Americans should have taken a little more care about the policies for the poorest countries in the world and there may be more sympathy. As it stands - welcome to the health oppressed club... may your stay be short!


"According to the [BS-BC]

"According to the [BS-BC] ads, people enrolled in the public health care plan wouldn't have a choice of doctors, would face long waiting periods for appointments and procedures and would not even be able to get a clerk to answer questions on billing." If this were true, the only difference between public and private insurance would be that private plans would offer the same lousy service for a lot more money. So, no, the private plans couldn't compete. Add to the mix that the accusations against a public plan are false (and known by their promoters to be false) and it's easy to see that the private health preventive industry is bound to follow the dodo, and deservedly so. 'Course, the Big O hasn't shown spine on this or any other issues so far, so I wouldn't hold my breath.


To WCh, the fact that there

To WCh, the fact that there is a huge problem with the way the health care insurance doesn't make it the only problem. "An Even better Solution" actually points out another one, albeit less acute. Here is my list of the things to fix:

* Health care insurance comes first

* Big pharma price gouging... well count it as first ex-aequo. Think that they obtained from the Bush administration the interdiction for Medicare to negociate prices - or, "Why do you think there are that many spam about canadian pharmacy?"

* Doctors population and expected income, related to both trained population and protectionism (re-read Dean Baker in these columns)

* Malpractice insurance costs - this is a side effect of the expected returns for lawyers and the fact that since the 80s the "Nation of law and not of men" has been taken maybe a little too literally: a Nation for the laws and not for the people.

Last word: automobile industry is 3% of the US economy; health care is... 17%. This is not actually created riches. This reminds me of the difference between the cost and the value...



Let's stop

Let's stop complaining! What can we do to fight back effectively!


There's something wrong with

There's something wrong with this story - it lacks balance, presenting only one aspect of the situation and problem. BCBS is one of the many choices for employees in the federal employee health care program. It is also one of the most popular in a system where both policy costs and benefits/exclusions vary considerably between companies - and BCBS is one of the most popular. Employees have the opportunity to change insurers annually, and BCBS has a high renewal rate, as well as many who try others only to come back to BCBS the following year. Is the system perfect? Far from it. But that's a reasonable starting point for a a model that has some substantial benefits over the way most people get to "choose" their health insurance provider. Disclosure is far better and easier to read, comparisons between companies are fairly easy, and each knows it is in competition with the others ever year. It works reasonably well to keep costs lower than they would be if there was no competition, simply government control. Private employers typically choose one insurance provider, so there's no financial incentive for the insurer to keep costs down and benefits up - including BCBS. Compare their federal policies with what an individual or small business can buy from BCBS, and you'll see a major difference between that limited competition arena vs. what BCBS competes in for the business of a huge number of federal employees. Allowing them to compete and the consumer to evaluate and choose between alternatives beats the socialist model any day. I don't personally care how much the CEO makes - it affects my individual premiums at a minuscule level. I care what s/he can provide, and the better job s/he does with that, I say up the rewards. Where there is no incentive, there is poor quality. Don't confuse a misused system with a system that can work if used as designed.


With all the above right-on

With all the above right-on comments, we really don't need this old woman's addition. But here it is anyway. If it weren't for Medicare, I would have been very ill and living under a bridge from 1990 on. My husband contracted a hospital infection, which eventually killed him, but Medicare paid for him. My medical problems now are as much from a long hospital infection as they are from natural causes. Medicare could probably improved, but I'll defend it till I die. I must add that the conservatives have succeeded in "proving" (?) that government is rotten under Bush/Cheney (beginning with Reagan/Thatcher. We the people can keep is working FOR everybody.


Single payer and make

Single payer and make Medicare real---premiums for Medicare keep going up and it doesn't cover attendant care/aides at home for folks (so we get shipped to nursing homes without choice). BlueCross Blue Shield provides Medigap insurance. Are you ready to hear the cost for the insurance that covers what Medicare does not, i.e. the gap? My premium for Medigap coverage, every three months, from BC/BS just went to $$583.38. Isn't it cute how they made the number with the _83.38 to make it easier to remember? It went up once this past year. Multiply that number by 4 for the year's cost. Many of us don't want HMO's, which Medicare has been pushing on us. Wonder why we don't want HMOs instead of Medicare?


I think the best solution

I think the best solution would be for everyone to drop their insurance coverage today. That is a voice the insurers would listen to. Even if we open the floodgates at our hospital emergency rooms, the pain would be short lived. We would see single payer in the USA.


One reason BC/BS and other

One reason BC/BS and other health insurance giants don't want us to have a public option is that they know that we will, for the most part, drop our private health insurance in a heartbeat. I have employer subsidized health insurance and it is such crap that I will drop it for a public plan the first minute I get the chance. We will get a public option, and most of us will choose it, and through that mechanism we will get our single payer option. I am healthy, and am knowledgeable enough to take good care of myself, so my health 'insurer' makes a lot of money off of me. As a profitable client, I will take my business to the public plan to help make sure it is a success.


Clearly there are huge

Clearly there are huge problems with health care in the US. If you pay for service out of pocket, you often pay 3 to 4 times the amount an insurance company pays for the same service. Similarly, an employer can obtain insurance if its employees at a fraction of the cost an individual has to pay. If you are not protected under a group plan, your policy can be canceled just when (just because) you need it. This is madness. On the other hand, you should be careful what you wish for. Politics is expensive. The government is horribly inefficient. Inserting regulation always increases costs. Lack of multiple suppliers and competition always results in higher prices and fewer choices. These are economic principles that hold true regardless of public opinion. You will not get something for nothing. The only way the government can offer lower cost health care is to limit service and access to services. There will be less money to develop new drugs and treatment programs and less interest in keeping you alive to consume additional services. On the other hand, there will be more money to coerce you into politically correct eating and living on the grounds that it lowers health care costs. Now go eat your broccoli.


Here are the profits the

Here are the profits the insurance companies make: Health insurance companies play a major role in our current healthcare crisis. These companies make huge profits and their CEOs make millions, while the rest of us face skyrocketing healthcare costs, impossible bureaucracy, and life-threatening insurance denials. HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY PROFITS IN 2007: 1. UnitedHealth Group -- $ 4.654 BILLION. UnitedHealth Group owns Oxford, PacifiCare, IBA, AmeriChoice, Evercare, Ovations, MAMSI and Ingenix, a healthcare data company 2. WellPoint -- $ 3.345 BILLION. Wellpoint owns BLUES across the US, including Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Georgia, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Wisconsin, Empire HealthChoice Assurance, Healthy Alliance, and many others 3. Aetna Inc. -- $ 1.831 BILLION 4. CIGNA Corp -- $ 1.115 BILLION 5. Humana Inc. -- $ 834 million 6. Coventry Health Care -- $626 million. Coventry owns Altius, Carelink, Group Health Plan, HealthAmerica, OmniCare, WellPath, others 7. Health Net -- $ 194 million The huge insurance company profits—BILLIONS EACH YEAR—could be used to provide quality healthcare for millions of people, and to pay physicians adequately for their work. We need to get the insurance companies OUT of healthcare . The only solution is a NON-PROFIT SINGLE-PAYER HEALTHCARE SYSTEM – and the single payer should not be an insurance company or a group of insurance companies.


2WaySkeptic states "without

2WaySkeptic states "without incentives there is poor quality." he says that as though it's some law of physics. apparently he's never heard of the healthcare systems in all the other industrialized wealthy countries (and even poor countries liek cuba) which have public healthcare and yet spend less than we do and are healthier with better outcomes. the fallacy of the thinking of brainwashed market ideologues like 2WaySkeptic (he's anything but a "2-way skeptic") is that they assume that financial gain is the only meaningful incentive. sorry bud, it's not. most americans are quite happy not being millionaires if they can feed their kids, have a home, be healthy, and have money for a vacation once in awhile. this idea that everyone out there wants to become millionaires, that that's how it should be, and that we must gain for ourselves at any cost is not only false (and resisted by the population) but also vulgar and disgusting.


So what is the total of

So what is the total of golden parachutes they have paid out? That's my money. I am sick of the sick industry holding my health hostage. I have forsaken this alternative medicine and have gone to herbalists and such with far greater success. And far cheaper too! And friendlier less arrogant people. You know, like people I can trust. People I would like to get to know, and I actually can!


An excellent article. I've

An excellent article. I've had 2 private health plans and, now, Medicare. It's just not true that the vast majority of private health plans give you more choice than the public one, Medicare. I have an, exponentially, greater choice of doctors, hospitals, clinics and labs under Medicare. There is an often mentioned belief that Medicare "rations" service. Of course it does. But their "rationing" is far superior to that done by the private health insurance companies. Instead of saying, as Conservatives do, "Do you want the government to ration your health care?" I say, "Do you want insurance companies to ration your health care? The public plan, as structured by Medicare and what Obama is proposing, is not "socialized" medicine. I don't go to doctors that work for the government or hospitals that are owned by the government. They are private business that Medicare pays for in my behalf.


I had insurance up until

I had insurance up until January of this year when I had to cancel it because I couldn't afford the premiums anymore as theyt were going to go up again that month. Last year I simply went for a physical and it was determined that I had to have several other tests. To make a long story short, I met my $5,000.00 deductible and continued to have to pay 30% so within six months I had spent $12,000 in medical costs, that I'm still paying for. Fortunately, all that was found wrong was high blood pressure. So now I'm back to waking up in the middle of the night worried that if anything develops with my health, I won't be able to afford to live.


am a retired M.D. who has

am a retired M.D. who has long been interested in the topic and recognize the need for health care reform in our country. I did not know about the information you provided on Blue Cross in N.C. but could give you many examples of health care insurance industry actions in Florida that I believe have not benefited our health care delivery system. Keep up your good reporting on this topic. Joel D. Fyvolent M.D.


Let me start by saying that

Let me start by saying that I totally support a single payer system and can not wait for the Obama administration to provide a detailed plan for a public option for health care plans. That said, I ask that those on both sides of the argument not forget how many middle income Americans are employed by private health care insurance providers like Blue Cross. If these jobs were to suddenly vanish like so many manufacturing jobs did under Bush, we would see a huge spike in unemployment. I would like to see companies like BC/BS sort of 'absorbed' into the single payer system. I don't have a clue as to how to have this happen but I do believe that it would be prudent to consider these employees before making huge decisions.


The US is run by Wall Street

The US is run by Wall Street and its lobbists. The purpose and duty of any private corporation is to maximize profit. It is answerable only to the shareholders, not the customers or employees. All of the arguments against single payer come from the big insurance companies and the people who are petrified by the S-word. The name of the game is: ever more money to the powerful. Where does that money come from? The people who actually produce things of value. Es war immer so! It's always been that way.


It is difficult to know what

It is difficult to know what the public plan in US would entail because no one has said. Does the American public really know how health insurance works in other countries whose populations are much smaller and not nearly as diverse as ours? I do not think that this clear. What I have come to believe that insurance in this country is run like the mobsters in the old "The Untouchables" series used to refer as the "rackets." Many plans, including auto, make the insured pay a deductible. I am assuming this is basically a penalty for using your plan, which you just paid the premium. Then there are the other restrictions. There has to be a definition as what health insurance is supposed to do for the person who buys it? Will people be allowed to get surgery that may be deemed cosmetic under this public policy. Who is going to define cosmetic, the doctor or the insurance that is expected for it? When is surgery cosmetic? Who determines if the test was medically necessary and how does the doctor prove it? A patient certainly can not. Most patients don't order their tests. How do you get the doctor to stop balance billing patients when they are not supposed to according to their insurance company contract? Every company is concerned about its business model. Every consumer is concerned about the their health and how to pay for catastrophic illness, especially in old age. Will the public plan be built on a Medicare model or on a plan the Federal employees and the members of Congress now enjoy?


I'm ready to take my chances

I'm ready to take my chances on single payer! Years ago I thought HMO's in Minnesota would be the answer. Have you seen those profits or executive pay? Give me a government bureaucrat who's interested in service.


Were so sorry for all the

Were so sorry for all the Health Insurance companies! THE PRESIDENT GAVE YOU A ROOMMATE TODAY! ALONG WITH A FUNERAL FOR RIPPING PEOPLE OFF WITH YOUR RATES AND SCARE TACTICS! FOR A GREEDY MAN? EVEN HIS TOMB IS TOO SMALL! I don't feel sorry for you bastards one bit! All of you deserve it for punishing people with your out of control punishing rates all these years!