Ten Things That Terrify Right-Wingers
Saturday 12 June 2010

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These are some of the things that keep American conservatives awake at night.
Modern American conservatism is based on an almost endless series of grievances. Author Thomas Frank coined a term for it: the conservative "plenty-plaint" -- a long and ever-evolving list of personal and cultural gripes dressed up as an ideology.
But there's also fear! And while it spans the breadth of the movement, this is the year of the Tea Party revolt, when the grassroots right, disgusted with the idea of semi-affordable health-care and tepid financial reforms is rebelling against even its own establishment. And the divide between the grassroots base and its leadership extends to the very fears that animate them. As we'll see, the conservative movement's business-attired hacks and the hard-Right tea Party types waving misspelled signs out in the streets have some very different causes for alarm.
So, here are ten of the most interesting things that absolutely terrify Wingnuttia. First, a few terrors of the real hard-core Right. For the Tea Partier, the midterm GOP primary voter, it's not just the anxiety over social change that typifies more traditional conservatism. A broad chunk of the GOP base today is animated by wildly unrealistic terrors -- monsters stalking them as the sun sets, perhaps hovering just beyond their peripheral vision.
1. Government Concentration Camps
Senate Majority leader Harry Reid, who's been facing uphill prospects for re-election in Nevada, is breathing a sigh of relief that his newly nominated Republican opponent, Sharron Angle, isn't a typical civil libertarian. According to Talking Points Memo, Angle endorses the views of (and may be a member of) the "Oath Keepers." It's a fast-rising right-wing group "whose membership of uniformed soldiers and police take an oath to refuse orders they see as unconstitutional -- including enforcement of gun laws, violations of states' sovereignty, and 'any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps,'" according to TPM.
Fear of Obama's Kenyan shock troops rounding up good conservatives and throwing them into Thunderdome-esque detention centers is nothing new on the Right. For years, conspiracy theories about "FEMA camps" have been percolating among the more feverish true believers. At TrueSlant, Matthew Fleischer wrote about a friend discovering that one of her co-worker's believed there to be an imminent threat:
FEMA was building camps to round up and annihilate Christians. The roundup would start soon, but it would move slowly and quietly. Whole families would disappear and not be heard from again, but it would be made to look like they simply moved out of town. Christian children, her children, would be gassed and put into plastic coffins. Two of the woman's friends had already moved out of the country. Others were following soon. She intended to join them as soon as she could save up enough money. But finances were tight and it might be too late.
Truly horrifying. And you can see pictures of actual FEMA camps right here on the internet, where everything's true! Or, you know, perhaps not.
The coming Obama Reich will naturally be justified by his own version of burning down the Reichstag -- the Brownshirts will blame say they're responding to Right-wing terrorism. In 2009, when the Department of Homeland Security issued a report warning of violence from Right-wing extremists, it caused near-apoplexy among the brethren. Talkradio host Roger Hedgecock summed up the danger like this: "So, if you disagree with Obama on amnesty for illegals or stand up for the Second Amendment, you are branded a 'rightwing extremist' by the Department of Homeland Security and become the subject of scrutiny by some 850,000 local and state law enforcement personnel." All of this led one commenter to observe, "At least we know now who all those FEMA camps are for."
Oh, the report was commissioned during the final years of the Bush administration -- Homeland Security just end up releasing it under Obama.
2. Moooslims!
If you pay attention to the Right, you might think there are large Islamic armies occupying a few majority-Christian countries these days instead of the other way around. If their rhetoric didn't justify real-world violence, one could say conservatives have become entertainingly unhinged when it comes to Islam. Here's a blurb for Mark Steyn's ominous-sounding book, America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It:
Someday soon, you might wake up to the call to prayer from a muezzin. Europeans already are. And Liberals will still tell you that "diversity is our strength"--while Talibanic enforcers cruise Greenwich Village burning books and barber shops, the Supreme Court decides Sharia law doesn't violate the "Separation of Church and State," and the Hollywood Left decides to give up on Gay Rights in favor of the much safer charms of Polygamy. If you think this can't happen, you haven't been paying...
Hey, it could happen! Bloggers have uncovered General David Petraeus embracing "the jihadist rhetoric of Islamic anti-Semitism," a nefarious plot by the Obama administration to transmit Islamic messages at an international nuclear summit, a similar plan by Food Network star Rachael Rae in cahoots with Dunkin Donuts and a plot by MasterCard to finance Islamic terrorism through those credit card fees. Perhaps most alarming, however, was a sinister scheme by devious Muslims to infiltrate the highest levels of government by applying for low-level internships in Capitol Hill offices. Only the tireless diligence of brave far-Right lawmakers like Reps. Sue Myrick (R-NC), John Shadegg (R-AZ), Trent Franks (R-AZ), and Paul Broun (R-GA) kept them from achieving their goals.
3. They're Coming to Take Your Guns
During the 1990s, the Democratic Party came to the conclusion that gun control was a losing issue at the national level. (Not that they'd ever tried to ban guns, of course -- gun control advocates had only sought to further limit the types of arms being sold, but mostly they pushed for background checks and stricter licensing requirements.) But the Right -- and especially the NRA, which needs to raise money -- never got the memo. With the election of a Kenyan Candidate, things have become decidedly more feverish. As Media Matters noted,
Since President Obama's election, several conservative media figures have warned their audiences that Obama is planning to, in the words of Glenn Beck, "slowly but surely take away your gun or take away your ability to shoot a gun, carry a gun" or have suggested that a government effort to ban guns is likely.
There's also the UN "gun ban treaty" to worry about (it's actually a proposed treaty governing the international transfer of arms, and specifically states that it isn't applicable to domestic law, but, you know, still kind of spooky).
This irrational fear is cause for a certain amount of rational fear among others. There have been at least two incidents of (no doubt already unhinged) people who took this threat so seriously they gunned down police officers in cold-blooded attacks.
4. Article 3 of the United States Constitution
Remember those Oath Keepers? They say they'll honor their pledge to uphold the United States' Constitution by defending against federal encroachment on states' rights. Like a lot of Right-wingers these days, they believe they're doing the Lord's work based on the 10th Amendment, which says that powers not expressly granted to the feds remain in the hands of the states.
Ah, but there's a conundrum! It's Article 3, which gives the Supreme Court the power to say whether a law oversteps the powers designated to the Federal Government. Believe it or not, the Founders never intended for the most reactionary law enforcement personnel in the country to decide disputes between the states and the central government, so they created a court to do that job. It's one of the enumerated powers in the Constitution!
5. Plotting Global Elites
Somewhat lost in the brouhaha over Kentucky senate candidate Rand Paul's views of the Civil Rights Act was his worry over the coming of the "Amero," the official currency of the absolutely terrifying North American Union to come.
It's an increasingly popular conspiracy theory about a group of shadowy and mostly nameless international "elites" who are planning to "replace the United States" -- in the words of Jerome Corsi, a key figure in the SwiftBoat Veterans for Truth project and a leading NAU conspiracist -- with a transnational government. The theory holds that the borders between Mexico, Canada and the United States are in the process of being erased, covertly, by a group of "globalists" whose ultimate goal is to replace national governments in D.C., Ottawa and Mexico City with a single trinational state ruled by a bloated EU-style bureaucracy.
The North American Union story is an offspring of the John Birch Society Right, with its simmering xenophobia and paranoia. It's terrifying, but fortunately it's also completely baseless.
It should go without saying that the Tea Partiers are also a bit apprehensive about the conservative establishment-types because the latter are elitists who live in high-rent cities along the coasts. Much of their alarm was of course stoked by those slick political operatives with partisan ambitions in mind. But once stirred to fear, a group of terrified people can be tough to control. The political hacks find the Tea Partiers useful, but no doubt also look upon them with some trepidation because they're crazy and might hurt someone. That, cobined with a changing electorate, causes conservative leaders -- ostensibly sensible people -- an entirely different set of anxieties. Their fear can be summed up as: Oh My God, We Won't Be Able to Win a Race for Dog-Catcher Outside the Deep South!
6. The Decline of Married White Christians
This one worries the operative class: the decline of married white people who identify as "Christians." The GOP relies on them -- they represent the party's most loyal demographic.
To be clear, there are a lot of white people, a lot of married people, and a lot of people who say they're Christians. But the share of American voters who are white and married and identify as Christians has been in a long and steep decline, and by every estimate will continue to fall.
That tidbit comes from an analysis by Emory University political scientist Alan Abramowitz. As he put it, "In American politics today, whether you are a married white Christian is a much stronger predictor of your political preferences than your gender or your class — the two demographic characteristics that dominate much of the debate" among the pundits. These two bone-chilling graphics reveal the trend:

That's the base, and it's shrinking fast:

7. The Graying of the Culture Warriors
Because the plenty-plaint is so flexible, you can rest assured that tomorrow's conservatives will never run out of wedge social issues. Nonetheless, some of the most popular aren't being embraced by the kids these days, and that's cause for alarm among those trying to win some elections.
An analysis by Columbia University statisticians found a "generation-gap" on support for same-sex marriage that they called "huge." According to the nerds, "If policy were set by state-by-state majorities of those 65 or older, none would allow same-sex marriage. If policy were set by those under 30, only 12 states would not allow-same-sex marriage."
According to the Pew Social and Demographic Trends Project, "About two-thirds of people 65 and older said religion is very important to them, compared with just more than half of those 30 to 49 and 44 percent of people 18 to 29."
Even the rural-urban divide is becoming narrower, at least in terms of lifestyle. According to the Fish and Wildlife Service, the number of Americans who hunt has dropped seven percent over the past decade, and NPR notes that "fewer young people, in particular" are taking up the sport.
The generation gap cuts across a range of social issues -- including interracial marriage and abortion. "Around the notion of morality and work ethic, the differences in point of view are pretty much felt across the board," Pew's Paul Taylor told the Associated Press. He said the gap has never been greater.
8. White Minority Status
Many people believe that in 2050, if birth and immigration rates do what experts expect them to, white folk will become a minority in the United States. This caused the so-totally-not-racist-and-how-dare-you-even-suggest-as-much Pat Buchanan a shiver of fear, tinged with a hint of nostalgia:
In 1960, when JFK defeated Nixon, America was a nation of 160 million, 90 percent white and 10 percent black, with a few million Hispanics and Asians sprinkled among us.
We were one nation, one people. We worshipped the same God, spoke the same English language, studied American history and English literature, honored the same heroes, read the same books, watched the same TV shows, went to the same movies …
That never happened in reality, of course.
But … that America is now gone forever…. In 2050, there will be three times as many people living here as in 1960 – 420 million. White Americans will be a minority, 49 percent, and falling… By countries of origin, America will be a Third World nation.
Oh, cry for the European Americans! Or don't -- Pat's numbers don't include white people of "Hispanic heritage." When you factor those white folks in, 74 percent of the population will remain pasty in 2050, down just six points from today.
9. And the Browning of America
Among the political class a more reasonable fear is that the base's boiling rhetoric over immigration will permanently alienate Latinos and Asian Americans, two fast-growing voting blocs that are heavily concentrated in a handful of key swing states. Rather than shaking over the prospect of a white demographic minority like Buchanan, they're afraid the venom coming from Republicans like Tom Tancredo (R-CO) and JD Hayworth (R-AZ) will saddle them with a structural inability to win national elections for a generation. As former Republican House majority leader Dick Armey, the chairman of the corporate-funded front-group Freedomworks and a key organizer of the angry and ostensibly "grass-roots" Tea Parties, put it, "Who in the Republican Party was the genius that said that now that we have identified the fastest-growing voting demographic in America, let's go out and alienate them?"
10. Unions
Here's another one that scares the Right-wing coastal elitists who in fact run the conservative movement, the operatives.
Most people understand that the Right's corporate patrons don't care for organized labor because it hurts the bottom line. But there's another thing to fear: Union members are more likely to vote their economic interests than be blinded by culture war distractions.
In 2004, although George Bush won the votes of white working-class men by 25 percent over John Kerry, blue-collar white guys who belonged to unions broke for Kerry by 21 percent. Charles Noble, a political scientist at IC Long Beach, commented, "Clearly, union members had a different perspective on the election, most likely provided by the unions themselves, which poured millions into educating and mobilizing union households." In 2008, John McCain beat Obama by 25 percent among all gun owners, but Obama won over union members who pack heat by a 12 percent margin. Guy Molyneux, a partner with Hart Research, which conducted exit polls for the AFL-CIO, told the New York Times that white male union members "supported Mr. Obama over Mr. McCain by a margin of 18 percentage points, while for all white men, exit polls found they backed Mr. McCain by a 16 percent margin."
White working-class "Reagan Democrats" voting for the colored guy? The horror!
There you have it: it's a scary world out there, and the Right represents a big, strong Daddy figure who can guide you through.
Joshua Holland is an editor and senior writer at AlterNet.
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Hmmm ... as a die-hard
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 12:59 — Irishmo48 (not verified)Hmmm ... as a die-hard Libertarian-Conservative, I find nothing in that list that I fear. I must be the exception that proves the rule!
What do Liberals fear?
1. Pollution.
2. America.
3. Tea-Party.
4. Supreme Court.
5. Gun-owners.
6. Big Oil.
7. Corporations.
8. Christians.
9. Marriage.
10. Fossil Fuel, especially Coal.
Radical left and right have
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 13:18 — Arturo_Vandelay (not verified)Radical left and right have a lot of similarities. They both want to control your life. If they could agree on how and work together freedom loving real people in the middle would have something to really worry about.
The one place they do work together to some extent is in our own two-party system. Gerrymandering and rule making so that nobody has a chance to challenge safe districts and dominating the media so that only major party candidates get any press in contested races.
this article completely
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 13:55 — Anonymous (not verified)this article completely mischaracterizes the oath keepers saying they refuse to enforce "gun laws", this is not the case. The oath keeper pledge states they will not support/carry out orders to disarm the American people, like what happened in Louisiana after Katrina. Instead of the LA state govt doing its job, evacuating citizens, and containing prisoners, they blamed the feds for not evacuating citizens, and allowed prisoners to be released/escape from many city jails. In the ensuing melee, after the natl guard arrived, they were recruited to go to the homes of LAW ABIDING CITIZENS OUTSIDE OF HEAVILY FLOOD RAVAGED AREAS AND CONFISCATE WEAPONS THEY WERE USING TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM POSSIBLE LOOTING!! Instead of containing/hunting down the criminals responsible for looting, assaults and the litany of crime occurring, they persecuted law abiding citizens!!! Go ahead and google " gun confiscation in louisiana". See for yourself. Those actions werent legal, nor were they constitutional. No declaration of martial law was made in LA, and the constitution was not suspended by ANY official act or authority. LIberals love to demonize gun owners, when its really anyone who loves freedom and adheres to the true spirit of the constitution that they hate.
@Irishmo48 We should all
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 14:17 — Retired LTC (not verified)@Irishmo48 We should all fear several of the items on your list (altho some are slightly redundant, since Big Oil and coal are largely to be feared because of the pollution they cause). But it's absurd to say liberals fear Christians, marriage, gun-owners, or OMG America. We ARE America, and many of us are married Christians who own guns. Your list just shows how out of touch with reality you are.
Hmmm ... as a die-hard
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 14:26 — Anonymous (not verified)Hmmm ... as a die-hard Moderate, I find nothing in that list that I fear. I must be the exception that proves the rule!
What do Conservatives fear?
1. Clean air.
2. Equal rights.
3. Reality checks.
4. Supreme Court.
5. Education.
6. Environmental Stewardship.
7. Government regulation.
8. Non-WASPs.
9. Mixed-marriage.
10. Responsible Resource Use.
Let's look at the real
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 14:44 — Rooti (not verified)Let's look at the real villains. The politicians controlling our lives answer to the corporations and the banks, both the Democrats and the Republicans. The corporations and banks answer to the almighty dollar and don't give a damn about the citizens of this country. Why are the people fighting among themselves when the real problems start higher up and involve others altogether?
The Tea Party has been
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 15:34 — radline9 (not verified)The Tea Party has been brought to you by ultra conservative political entities that want the same kind of rule and worse than George Bush gave us. They are intent on holding onto their conspicuous consumption lifestyle even if it causes the destruction of the United States as we know it. When it all collapses, they will be the least prepared. Many of us already know how to live without money.
As a conservative
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 16:25 — rnnsnce rob (not verified)As a conservative libertarian, I tend to fear anyone or any organization that believes in or peddles the lie of free lunch. Clean air at what cost? Our air is ten times cleaner than it was 40 years ago. Equal rights? I believe that the concept of equal rights disappeared a long time ago to be replaced by quota think and "woe is me" entitlement handouts. Government regulation at the very least is a double-edged sword and carries with it a large potential for corruption. Regulation often is no better than a game of catch-up. Regulators busy themselves "fixing" problems that stem from obsolescent causes. And I really don't have much faith in a supreme court that can't distinguish between payola and speech.
In Minnesota they also fear
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 16:32 — ItsMyParty (not verified)In Minnesota they also fear candidates for Congress that won't just vote no, and they even fear the democratic candidates at the state level, as they showed by running spending a quater million dollars in 2008 to get a secretary with no experience elected over an effective Democrat, Shelley Madore.
Now their worst nightmare: Madore's running in the primary August 10th in the district nobody's watching in MN, because all eyes are on the Bachmann/Clark race in the 6th district. An unemployed former GOP operative, who voted for Bush but allegedly converted when he learned health care can be expensive, is also in the primary just to add a bit of spice for the media.
See: www.MadoreForCongress.com to see what makes elite GOP strategists quake in their boots.
Rooti, if you can pull it
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 16:33 — Robert Walters (not verified)Rooti, if you can pull it up, you should listen to today's "Ring of Fire" program with Mike Papantonio, who interviewed some blogger/researcher who traces the "flash crash" of the NYS market a couple of weeks ago, and previously sharp declines to computerized manipulation by Goldman Sachs & perhaps others of the "financial" sector. Purpose of the manipulation was to intimidate Congress & the Obama Administration into doing the banksters' bidding: first, enactment of TARP and the AIG bailout; a couple of weeks ago to prevent Congress from enacting the "Volcker Rule" and more stringent regulation of the financial sector. Where's the pitchfork & guillotine crowd when you need them??
To Irishmo48: Perhaps its
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 16:55 — ProgressiveInCaryIL (not verified)To Irishmo48: Perhaps its best to look at policies and initiatives the Right has traditionally fought against to gain a better picture of the kind of America they(you???) stand for:
Women’s Suffrage
Child labor laws
Integration
Collective Bargaining
Voting Rights Act
Medicare
Medicaid
Food Stamps
Indigent legal services
Ameri-Corps
Social Security
Unemployment compensation
Civil Rights Act
Welfare
Minimum Wage
School lunch programs
Progressive Taxation
Public radio and television
Funding of the Arts
Affirmative Action
Peace Corps
Environmental regulations...
Yes! I thank God America doesn't completely agree with the Christian, "compassion" of the Right!
". . . right here on the
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 18:33 — Straight-Ahead (not verified)". . . right here on the internet, where everything's true!"
Benjamin Disraeli said it best: 'There are Lies, Damned Lies and the Internet.' People at the time didn't know what the Internet was, er would be, so they tried to make sense of the dictum by changing 'Internet' to 'Statistics.' We even have to read TO with a bit of skepticism ready for deployment.
It's a pretty good article,
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 18:57 — Droslovinia (not verified)It's a pretty good article, and seems pretty accurate. The responses that some have given to it add to it's plausibility, as well. Here's a tip for you: if you are going to refer to yourself as "freedom loving," as if you are and others are not, you're going to come off sounding like someone who spouts whatever their favorite political pundit of the week is saying, rather than someone who actually IS what they claim to be.
rnnsnce asks: "Clean air at
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 20:52 — Straight-Ahead (not verified)rnnsnce asks: "Clean air at what cost? Our air is ten times cleaner than it was 40 years ago."
The air is 10 times cleaner now than 40 years ago because of regulation of air pollution and mandatory pollution-control measures. The American Right has fought many of these efforts, using the Republican Party as their vehicle of choice since Nixon left office in disgrace. The Right's antipathy to air-pollution regulation comes from their loyalty to their corporate owners who have bought them with campaign contributions. It's all about one of the pillars of capitalism: externalization of costs. Why pay for something if you can get or force someone else to pay the costs in some fashion? In the case of pollution, it's more often poor people, who have very weak political voices. Capitalism says they should get sick so that billionaires don't have to pay for pollution controls.
Then rnnsnce adds: "And I really don't have much faith in a supreme court that can't distinguish between payola and speech.'
To which I can only respond, "Amen."
What do liberals fear? 1.
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 21:05 — Libby (not verified)What do liberals fear?
1. Dick Cheney and endless war for profit
2. Privatization of functions better done by government to turn them into profit-making entities (e,g., Halliburton and KBR and Blackwater).
3. Unchecked capitalist greed funneling 90% of the wealth into the hands of the super-wealthy.
4. A mainstream media that embraces "truthiness" and makes no distinction between facts and lies, or facts and crazy statements or facts and provably false assertions.
5. A government that carries out rendition and torture in our name.
6. Electronic voting without paper trails.
7. Continued deregulation of banking, oil drilling and mining allowing corporation to continue to risk the lives of their workers and despoil the environment.
8. Fundamentalists insisting on teaching religion in the place of science and history.
9. The continued effort to eliminate social security and put those billions into the hands of the financial wizards that just crashed the ecomony.
10. The Republican party will never regain its centrist wing and rebalance itself.
Irishmo48 - FAIL! We LOVE
Sat, 06/12/2010 - 21:20 — Anonymous (not verified)Irishmo48 - FAIL! We LOVE America, we carry guns (I do anyway, as do most Southern and Western Democrats), we marry and love our spouses, we appreciate the Supreme Court when it is balanced and not full of Reactionary Activists, we don't FEAR corportations or big oil, just know WE should control THEM. We laugh at the Tea party. Pollution is indeed something to fear and bring under control, doubly so since Regressives don't seem to get it, to wit: their biggest concern with the big spill in the Gulf is the loss of product.
So you lose, try again.
I consider myself a
Sun, 06/13/2010 - 09:28 — Anonymous (not verified)I consider myself a progressive liberal, yet I own several guns. I target practice and I hunt big game. Why? Because the meat is low in fat, no chemicals added and also I put it on the table. t is hard work. I once was a member of the NRA but felt that it was all a fear factor that they used to get their money. Wayne LaPierre, the CEO of the NRA makes millions off of this fear. He needs the Democrats in office so that he can raise money by scaring gun enthusiasts. I don't need the NRA in my life.
Irishmo48 - You don't love
Sun, 06/13/2010 - 09:58 — Anonymous (not verified)Irishmo48 - You don't love America, you love yourself.
Your list of things to fear are things America should fear.
Example: Republicans can hardly contain their glee at the political opportunity afforded them by the Oil Spill. Get this, they say it's worse than Katrina! 4o00 Americans died in Katrina!
Liberals fear Christians who have been radicalized into sedition.
To sum up your party and movement:
Sedition is a term of law which refers to overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority as tending toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.
Great story. Thank You I
Sun, 06/13/2010 - 10:32 — William Sledge (not verified)Great story. Thank You
I can only imagine what the money trail that fosters these wacko ideas, this kind of propaganda, looks like. Could it involve some of DC's political think tanks?
I was disgusted when the NRA
Sun, 06/13/2010 - 10:37 — nora (not verified)I was disgusted when the NRA swept into grieving towns, fronted by Chas. Heston, holding a big gun rally in the face of tragedy and grief. That crossed the line. Louisiana however let us know the NRA won't stand with us when confronted by Blackwater mercenaries, aka XE. Flipping the bird to those grieving for child victims is oh so much safer than standing up to a heavily armed warrior. You total gits!! NRA= no relief available.
All the money you received from members, who you deserted immediately. What did you do with our cash?
What a relief to hear that
Sun, 06/13/2010 - 10:55 — Anonymous (not verified)What a relief to hear that the FEMA camps are no longer for those who disagree with the conservative agenda! From 2000 to 2008 the "camps" were destined for all the Liberal Democrats as I recall........
Nice list of straw men. One
Sun, 06/13/2010 - 12:53 — Anonymous (not verified)Nice list of straw men. One commenter even decided that exercising free speech to rebut your points provides evidence of the truth of the article.
Taking our guns away scares
Sun, 06/13/2010 - 14:13 — Anonymous (not verified)Taking our guns away scares the hell out of us left-wing radicals, too!
I can't believe anyone can
Sun, 06/13/2010 - 14:17 — Theo Sigon (not verified)I can't believe anyone can summon the amount of conscious time it would take to amass this much treacle.
How must it feel to be so lost and not have a clue that lost is the cause you champion. I marvel at that level of mistaken righteousness!
I kind of feel embarrassed for you.
WOW!!! THIS SOUNDS KOOKY AND
Sun, 06/13/2010 - 19:54 — Anonymous (not verified)WOW!!! THIS SOUNDS KOOKY AND LIKE PLAIN OLD GARDEN VARIETY GOTTA BRING BACK THE NEW KLAN AND PRETEND IT'S NOT CAUSE A BLACK GUYS IN OFFICE. BUSH WAS GIVEN 8 YEARS TO DESTROY. NO ONE WAS SHAKING IN THEIR BOOTS. AT LEAST THEY WOULDN'T TELEVISE IT. NOW THEASE RIGHT WINGERS ARE READY TO DEFEND AGAINST WHAT? WHO DEFEND US AGAINST THEM? THEY ARE COMPLETELY NUTS AND THE THING ABOUT IT WE HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE. AND THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE NEW? PLEASE!!!!!
Oath Takers? I'm not an
Sun, 06/13/2010 - 23:08 — Anonymous (not verified)Oath Takers?
I'm not an American but you have a group called the Oath Takers "whose membership of uniformed soldiers and police take an oath to refuse orders" ... when I served in my country's military this sort of conspiracy to refuse orders was called ... MUTINY.
I agree with these two
Mon, 06/14/2010 - 01:11 — Anonymous (not verified)I agree with these two comments! I am a liberal.
What do liberals fear? 1.
Sun, 06/13/2010 - 02:05 — Libby (not verified)
What do liberals fear?
1. Dick Cheney and endless war for profit
2. Privatization of functions better done by government to turn them into profit-making entities (e,g., Halliburton and KBR and Blackwater).
3. Unchecked capitalist greed funneling 90% of the wealth into the hands of the super-wealthy.
4. A mainstream media that embraces "truthiness" and makes no distinction between facts and lies, or facts and crazy statements or facts and provably false assertions.
5. A government that carries out rendition and torture in our name.
6. Electronic voting without paper trails.
7. Continued deregulation of banking, oil drilling and mining allowing corporation to continue to risk the lives of their workers and despoil the environment.
8. Fundamentalists insisting on teaching religion in the place of science and history.
9. The continued effort to eliminate social security and put those billions into the hands of the financial wizards that just crashed the ecomony.
10. The Republican party will never regain its centrist wing and rebalance itself.
We LOVE America. . . . we appreciate the Supreme Court when it is balanced and not full of Reactionary Activists, we don't FEAR corportations or big oil, just know WE should control THEM. We laugh at the Tea party. Pollution is indeed something to fear . . .
So you lose, try again.
ProgressiveinCaryIl ... Lets
Mon, 06/14/2010 - 14:54 — IrishMo48 (not verified)ProgressiveinCaryIl ... Lets look at your list.
Women’s Suffrage ... I'm all for women's rights ... I hate to see 'em suffer.
Child labor laws ... Why you want children to labor legally is beyond me.
Integration ... I only got a c+ in Calculus.
Collective Bargaining ... Who would want to bargain with a buncha Commies?
Voting Rights Act ... I thing the Lefts should be allowed to vote too.
Medicare ... I wouldn't wish this crap on my "oldest" enemies, let alone my oldest friends.
Medicaid ... Bandaid is a better brand.
Food Stamps ... I'd rather eat it untrod-upon thank you very much.
Indigent legal services ... Why discriminate? Native American women deserve legal services too.
Ameri-Corps? ... Bury 'em in graveyards like the rest of the world does.
Social Security ... Tried it yet? Give it a shot, and let me know how great it is!
Unemployment compensation ... I highly prefer employment compensation.
Civil Rights Act ... Civil Lefts act too ... They juct don't emote as well.
Welfare ... See Social Security above ...
Minimum Wage ... Why would you want to force anyone to work for such a measly wage. I'm way more impressed by maximum wage,
School lunch programs ... Programs? In restaurants they are called menus.
Progressive Taxation ... NOW!! Finally!!! Here's something we can agree on! I'm all for taxing all progressives to the max!!
Public radio and television ... See Social Security above ...
Funding of the Arts ... I could change my name if it would get me funding ...
Affirmative Action ... If you ply him with enough booze, even YOU could get him to say yes?
Peace Corps ... They usually are totally peaceful. 'Cept the zombies of course.
Environmental regulations ... If CO2 is so bad, stop exhaling, and don't let your plants have any of it!
Noticing: the inevitable
Tue, 06/15/2010 - 00:04 — 4Truth&Justice (not verified)Noticing: the inevitable cave-in by readers posting who can't resist the impulse to defend and justify their favored "Solves all problems" political ideology.
Fact: both Right and Left have some good ideas and have done some good for Americans.
Fact: but those good ideas could have come to us from simple, rational thought and a community spirit (ala Ben Franklin).
Fact: but those good ideas get buried (or co-opted) by all the political fantasy crap put out by both parties.
Conclusion: We'd do well to totally reform both political parties and OUTLAW propaganda.
But I did enjoy some of the insights offered in the article: I "experience" these whack0 fears coming from people I've known for decades.
Also: the article fails to mention that a lot of these fears are promoted through forwarded emails (almost 100% anonymous and unverified). I like to point out to my friends when they send one of these "fevered pitches" for panic that they are - believing total strangers who probably earn a little side money selling porn via email spam.
Hey Josh Holland: Nice
Tue, 06/15/2010 - 04:55 — oh for cryin' out loud—Popular Mechanics?! (not verified)Hey Josh Holland: Nice piece.
But you LOST me at paragraph 3 where you cite Popular Mechanics! What unmitigated credulousness.
Jeez, good man; get a clue. Popular Mechanics is as wingnutty as they get. Find a better refutation of the phantom FEMA camps (which they are) from a source that actually has credibility. Popular Mechanics is Reader's Digest, for crying out loud.
How really disappointing, Holland.
Hey, rnnsnce rob (As a
Tue, 06/15/2010 - 05:02 — Anonymous (not verified)Hey, rnnsnce rob (As a conservative—Sat, 06/12/2010 - 21:25) — free lunch? Hey, how 'bout them free lunches you get at all your little business gatherings?
Newsflash: Bad things happen to good people. The "free lunch" idiocy is because this society fails to employ people adequately. You a libertarian? Start creating jobs and prosperity for somebody else besides your selfish self.
This guy is a doorknob,
Tue, 06/15/2010 - 16:14 — DANKYOGURT (not verified)This guy is a doorknob, trust me there are just as may people on the left that can't spell and think that the government is actually out to help them. The tea party was created to offer a third option to the corporate duopoly that rules this country. It was hijacked immediately due to fear of an actual third party creating even a tinge of collective awareness. Intellectual idiots(like the guy that wrote this) who go out and proudly vote for their party are blind enough to believe there is a shred of difference between the two parties. It is a joke, you hear stupid thing like, well its the lesser of two evils, or he can't be worse than Bush. Wake up call buddy, OBAMA = BUSH same foreign, economic, monetary, military policy. Bush was a warmonger, now Obama has more troops in combat that bush and he wins the Nobel peace prize and the anti war movement dies. Go out and vote like the sheep you are, Coke vs Pepsi, and guess what they both taste the same. \
PS: We already had our Reichstag it was a little thing called 9/11
Allow me to add my two cents
Tue, 06/15/2010 - 18:17 — Anonymous (not verified)Allow me to add my two cents to this fray. Here is a metaphor. Now, lets pretend we are on a ship. and that ship is floating on nothing. Lets pretend that the selfish humans aboard this ship don't give two shits about the ship and do whatever they want on the ship. Now, how much longer do humans think they are gonna survive doing whatever they want on this floating ship. Does everybody get me.
Humanity has the priorities out of whack and I for one would like to see America take the lead getting the priorities in order. I am trying very hard to maintain a positive, non-cynical attitude but when I see US citizens and I have seen you all across this nation, bitching and moaning and fighting about stupid shit, I began to question my attitude.
I will say it one more time. Hold steady. Ignore the distractions. Pay extreme attention to the law being created and passed. Change your lifestyles. Be an informed voter. Good day.
"It's an increasingly
Wed, 06/16/2010 - 08:03 — Pere Ubu (not verified)"It's an increasingly popular conspiracy theory about a group of shadowy and mostly nameless international "elites" who are planning to "replace the United States" -- in the words of Jerome Corsi, a key figure in the SwiftBoat Veterans for Truth project and a leading NAU conspiracist -- with a transnational government."
Meh, it's nothing more than the old "THE JOOZ IS RULING US ALL" merde dressed up in new anti-globalization clothing. Goes right back to the addlepates who think we should be back on the gold standard so "the elites YOU KNOW WHO *nudge nudge*" can't "destroy our economy". Bleh.
And as far as being afraid of the Teabaggers - when people wave guns at political rallies and talk about violent revolution and call people like me "Nazis" and say they're hunting us (like Glennbeck did)... yeah, I reserve a bit of anxiety for that.
Medicare, Social Security
Wed, 06/16/2010 - 14:01 — Chad (not verified)Medicare, Social Security and Unemployment are not free lunches. I pay a certain amount of my paycheck every 2 weeks into Medicare and Social Security. Now we have conservatives who want to say to all the people who have paid into those programs "hey sorry about your luck". That sounds like a deadbeat to me.
And I currently pay taxes to support unemployment insurance because I know it is always possible for me to become unemployed for matters outside of my control, and I don't want to starve to death. I, like most Americans would rather work for a living, but I'd also like to have some insurance in case things don't work out. I'm not enough of a fool to think that I will never run into hard times. And I've paid for this insurance with my taxes, so I have every right to take advantage of it should I become unemployed. Its not a fucking handout!
Medicaid and Welfare certainly have their share of problems, but they aim to be poverty reduction programs. But conservatives don't want to fix them to ensure that they actually reduce poverty (something I can agree with completely). Conservatives disagree with the very notion of poverty reduction, which is stupid (poverty creates crime, and no one wants more crime) and goes against most religious and philosophical viewpoints on morality. You might want to double check your Bible - Jesus says far more about the poor then he does about gays.
I was tempted to say that conservatives have their priorities out of whack, but I'm starting to doubt that. I think you know what your priorities are - you want to steal money that doesn't belong to you by robbing from medicare, social security and unemployment insurance (that's my money dammit!). You want to exploit the poor and immigrants for cheap labor. You want to rob individuals of all social rights, while granting corporations full legal immunity. And if you think you don't want these things, I'm sorry to inform you that you are simply a tool of the corporate elite who do want these things.
We all need to remember who our real enemies are. In an age where banks are destroying our economy and oil companies are destroying the gulf, only a fool would look to the government for blame.
Dear Mr. Sledge: Short-Cut
Thu, 06/17/2010 - 13:28 — Frances in California (not verified)Dear Mr. Sledge: Short-Cut if you're following the money - Richard Mellon Scaiffe; Roger Ailes; Rev. Moon in his disguise called the Washington Times.
IrishMO, you need to change
Thu, 06/17/2010 - 13:36 — Frances in California (not verified)IrishMO, you need to change your Commenter name. My antecedents were Irish and you don't even come from the same Galaxy . . .