Bid to Limit Tax Cuts to Middle Class and Poor Fails in Senate
Saturday 04 December 2010
by: David Lightman | McClatchy Newspapers | Report

MoveOn.org protest in San Francisco against extending the Bush-era tax cuts for millionaires.(Photo: Steve Rhodes / Flickr)
Washington - The Senate on Saturday blocked and most likely doomed efforts to extend Bush-era tax cuts only for the middle class and the poor but not the very rich.
The votes effectively clear the way for the White House and Congress to iron out a compromise on how to continue the expiring breaks. Bipartisan talks began earlier this week, and it’s widely expected negotiators will agree to a temporary extension of the cuts for every income group, which expire Dec. 31.
Saturday was largely a day for making political points and reiterating long-held views. The Senate took two votes to cut off debate on the middle class/poor cuts, but both failed to get the support of the 60 of 100 senators needed. Most of the opposition came from Republicans.
The House of Representatives voted Thursday to approve the cuts for the middle class and the poor, with most Democrats voting yes and most Republicans voting no.
Democrats expressed their disdain for an across-the-board extension, charging that Republicans were giving the rich help they didn’t need.
Most Democrats, and President Barack Obama, favor only an extension of the cuts for individuals earning less than $200,000 and couples making less than $250,000. Republicans, and some moderate Democrats, want all the cuts extended, saying that raising taxes during an economic slump would be disastrous.
If the cuts for the wealthy aren't extended, the two top rates, now 33 percent and 35 percent, would go back to pre-Bush era levels of 36 percent and 39.6 percent.
“It’s a question of who you’re going to help,” said Sen. Mark Begich, D-Alaska. “We’re going to help the small business owners. We’re going to help the middle class.”
In the White House’s weekly address, Vice President Joe Biden pressed the point. “After a decade in which they lost ground, middle-class families can ill afford a tax hike _ and our economy can't afford the hit it will take if middle-class families have less money to spend,” he said.
Republicans countered that the Saturday votes were little more than a political show, and now that they’re done, lawmakers can get on with serious negotiations.
“It became apparent the second time we met,” said Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., one of the negotiators, “that actually there wasn’t going to be any bipartisan negotiations to reach a decision until there had been a political catharsis on the Democratic side.”
Saturday, Democrats got to make their points with votes on two measures.
One would have extended the tax cuts, originally enacted in 2001 and 2003, only to the middle class and the poor, and would have continued jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed. Funding for those benefits ran out Wednesday, and about 2 million people are expected to lose their benefits unless Congress acts.
The vote for cutting off extended debate was 53-37, effectively dooming the measure, since 60 votes were needed. Republicans voting to continue debate were joined by independent Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and four Democrats: Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Joe Manchin of West Virginia, Jim Webb of Virginia and Ben Nelson of Nebraska.
The second measure would have extended the cuts for those earning less than $1 million. The vote to end that debate was 53-36, also effectively killing the plan. Lieberman and four Democrats _ Feingold and Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, Richard Durbin of Illinois and Tom Harkin of Iowa voted not to cut off debate.
But these votes, along with Thursday’s House approval of the $200,000/$250,000 cut, served several political purposes.
It put Democrats on the record as opposing tax cuts for the rich. Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., who won re-election last month, noted that people often asked if his party understands the election’s mandate. Republicans gained 63 House seats and six Senate seats.
“They did say repeal health care. And they did say shrink the size of government,” he said. “But not a single one of them, from the tea party or anywhere else, said, ‘Give tax breaks to the millionaires."’
The vote also gave Democrats a forum for painting the GOP as insensitive and divisive.
“The minority in the Senate believes _ against all evidence to the contrary _ that millionaires, billionaires and CEOs who ship jobs overseas deserve this giveaway,” said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.
The vote also gave Republicans some talking points. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell called the Saturday vote “a total waste” of time and dubbed Democrats’ effort “a vote to slam job creators with a massive tax increase.”
And, said Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, “It’s too late for partisan stunts. The American people need action.”
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The brazen mercenary acts
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 14:14 — Anonymous (not verified)The brazen mercenary acts of the Republican party need massive opposition. The cowering
Democratic Party offers no significant opposition, so the people should act, 60s style, with mass
demonstrations against giving the entire wealth of the country to a few plutocrats.
The politicians know which
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 14:50 — Allan J Krueger (not verified)The politicians know which side their bread is buttered on! The country is finished, folks! Unless you are high on the food chain, you're toast - no butter needed!
It will indeed take direct
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 14:51 — MR (not verified)It will indeed take direct action by the people to get things done to help the middle class and poor and to stop pandering to the rich. It has indeed come to this, as the Democrats have proven once again they are a worthless party.
Until massive direct action takes place, nothing will change.
Just more DEM Reneging
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 15:15 — Vic Anderson (not verified)Just more DEM Reneging RHETORIC!
The only way we should allow
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 16:35 — nazani14 (not verified)The only way we should allow the tax cuts for the rich to continue is with the provision that for every $25,000. saved, they must create a full-time job.
LET THE TAX CUT EXPIRE!! IN
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 16:37 — Anonymous (not verified)LET THE TAX CUT EXPIRE!!
IN OTHER WORDS: DO NOTHING CONGRESS!!
CUT THE MILITARY PENTAGON AND ALL SECURITY CONTRACTORS!!
CUT THE NEW TRADE DEAL WITH SOUTH KOREA.
OBAMA LEARN HOW TO NEGOTIATE WITH REPUBLICANS BY NOT GIVING THE CARROT FIRST.
THANK YOU!!
Compromise? There will be NO
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 16:43 — billnbillieskid (not verified)Compromise? There will be NO compromise. The regressive Republi-WON'Ts will jam their agenda down everyone's throat or up everyone's nether end and the Democrats will say, " But gee, you didn't make me smile while you were screwing me". We are no longer a Democracy. We are now Of, By and For the Mega-wealthy. The President has folded on everything, agreeing to every demand, yet, STILL they ride rough-shod over him. Doesn't a President have ANY power? No matter. it won't be too long now until the "Great Un-washed" realize they've been HAD once again by the regressive Republi-WON'T rapists. Then, the Party WILL begin.
Fellow up there posts for
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 16:49 — Anonymous (not verified)Fellow up there posts for 60s style demonstrations. I'll be he wasn't even alive then. The demonstrations were by people eligible for the draft (and their friends) during the Viet Nam war. Nixon ended the draft, and that ended mass demonstrations. If there are demonstrations now, they will be caused by starvation, not tax cuts for the rich.
It seems to me we're being
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 17:03 — goobagooba (not verified)It seems to me we're being herded into positions where we are either/or, eg. rich/poor, Republican/Democrat, have/have not, etc. and not being treated as people whose values are not so easily categorized.
English has become a universal language not because it is any better as a language per se, but because of the "trade" system established during the past few hundred years at the point of a spear, arrow, gun, or by virtue of the clever uses of opium.
WE CITIZENS ARE NOT BEING TRULY REPRESENTED, hence are in a position, according to the Constitution, to replace our government with one that works for us. Problem with any revolution is that the new boss is pretty much the same as the old boss.
Look past the rhetoric to see the status quo these Congresspeople represent, and you will find some very basic and purposeful forces at work. It's all about crowd control.
Let's just see what happens
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 17:18 — topcat (not verified)Let's just see what happens in two years...
Will unemployment go down? Will people find jobs? Might we once again become a nation that actually produces things of value?
I cannot help but wonder why some people feel they can live comfortably, surrounded by people who are suffering.
Doesn't work for me.
Scenario for a collapsing nation: A small percentage of very wealthy people, surrounded by a great number of others who have no work, have no hope, and who do have guns...
How long might this go on?
"Compromise-there will be NO
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 17:19 — An (not verified)"Compromise-there will be NO compromise" writes "The President has folded on everything, agreeing to every demand, yet, STILL they ride rough-shod over him. Doesn't a President have ANY power?"
Yes, a President has a lot of power. But he cannot be Mr. Nice Guy. Obviously once he has folded, agreed to every demand, what do you expect his adversaries to say? Orator, Scholar, Nice guy- doesn't make a leader. Obama is this century's Woodrow Wilson.
21:37 - Agree Let All Tax
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 17:33 — Anonymous (not verified)21:37 - Agree
Let All Tax Cuts Expire
A country cannot run on fumes
Remember - Rove wanted to drown democracy in the bathtub - not just democrats
Screw the mega-rich and
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 17:36 — William Lyon (not verified)Screw the mega-rich and their lackeys in Congress, the Supreme Court and the media! They have perverted democracy in America. Viva WikiLeaks! Is this class warfare? YES!!!
Why don't the Democrats make
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 18:13 — Anonymous (not verified)Why don't the Democrats make the Republicans actually filibuste? Make them actually hold the floor from now until December 31st, even if they read telephone books. The spectacle would be enough to make the citizens demand that they bring the tax bill to the floor for a vote.
Cathy Hinga made the obvious
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 18:32 — Cynthia (not verified)Cathy Hinga made the obvious point and I endorse it: Had tax breaks for the very top brackets had a tonic effect on the economy, as was advertised at the time(s) they passed, those effects have had ample time to appear. Yet we see them not. As the old Fed. Chairman admitted, the model the neocons longed to try for decades was tried, and it failed. End of experiment. Let's try the other theory's idea now. The modest mixed economy model that did work. Let's try that again.
Well, let's do it. I think
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 18:32 — Jodiah (not verified)Well, let's do it. I think this is worth the time and effort to protest. Take it to the streets! Where do I sign up?
Schumer, you rock! Grayson too. You make me proud! Keep it up.
The Average was around
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 18:33 — Anonymous (not verified)The Average was around $1,900 of extra payment if ALL cuts were to expire. Well, I will like to know what is the Medium, certainly way lower than that. Any way, count with whatever small portion of or up to $1,900 of mine, so the Koch Bros pay their share. For each dollar of mine, they will be paying hundred of thousands of our national budget and debt. And maybe we can extend unemployment benefits just out of their share.
I've got news for the
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 18:50 — juls (not verified)I've got news for the Republicans. If you're making more than $250,000 a year you are no longer a small businessman. And if the Republicans are howling, you can be sure the Democrats have done something they either didn't expect or something they didn't want to happen, which is to say they did something that might be good for the American people.
Now, no more negotiating with people who call you a Nazi. Capish?
it's interesting watching
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 19:47 — Anonymous (not verified)it's interesting watching america implode - like the fall of the roman empire with the laurel leaf crown going to the highest bidder.
for all the talk it's obvious that democracy no longer exists, that the citizens no longer have any interest but self-interest, and that absolutely nothing is going to change...
Although I am a progressive,
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 21:26 — Sandy Winnemueller (not verified)Although I am a progressive, I don't believe that there is much difference in who is in the White House anymore. Obama just picked up where Bush left off. He surrounded himself with Bush's people including Gates and Geithner and he has let the republicans walk right over him. Even with the Healthcare bill he backed down on the public option and now its just a free lunch for the insurance companies. We now live in a corpocracy and the corporate supported Economic Elite are always pulling the strings, effectively carrying out the second great transfer of wealth from the middle and poor to the already wealthy by way of the housing bubble and banking collapses. The corporate owned mainstream media is able to keep most Americans ignorant of what is really going on while the Military-Industrial complex just keeps on growing and making messes all over the globe all in the name of Democracy. The time is getting close for the revolution that will surely come when enough of us are forced to leave our homes and can no longer feed our children. I see that point fast approaching.
A Progressive Party won't
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 23:27 — john sullivan (not verified)A Progressive Party won't work until we get runoff elections requiring >50% for the winner.
Is it just my imagination,
Sun, 12/05/2010 - 12:07 — Cynthia (not verified)Is it just my imagination, or do the Facebook posts drone on and on much more than the normal posts do?
Even though I'm on FB, I'm
Sun, 12/05/2010 - 16:03 — B (not verified)Even though I'm on FB, I'm posting here. The division is a bit too weird for me, and it seems inappropriate for a site like this one.
Anyway, I'm interested in the question "Why did Feingold vote no?" I would love to see some good analysis somewhere. A google search just brought up some right wing pundit drooling about it.
B, I didn't know Feingold
Sun, 12/05/2010 - 17:17 — Cynthia (not verified)B, I didn't know Feingold voted No. One could probably find out by going on his Web site. I'm swamped with stuff right now, but I'll check it out when I've more time.
Cynthia - thanks. I tried
Sun, 12/05/2010 - 19:39 — B (not verified)Cynthia - thanks. I tried going to his website, but there was nothing new. I did find a letter to him (and the other Dems who voted "no") from a disgruntled progressive. It's curious.
Also, one of the FB posters (above) is also asking this question, in case you skipped reading that section.
“It became apparent the
Mon, 12/06/2010 - 13:07 — MG (not verified)“It became apparent the second time we met,” said Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., one of the negotiators, “that actually there wasn’t going to be any bipartisan negotiations to reach a decision until there had been a political catharsis on the Democratic side.”
This is utter CRAP in the form of obfuscation, as spoken by one of monumental crap-flingers of the Senate. The fact that Kyl is an actual negotiator is part of what is wrong with the US. He should be behind a desk somewhere making his $350 per hour chasing ambulances, not making decisions for the country.
Some day Americans will wake up to the fact that we have incompetent corporate toadies working on our behalf, in a broken institution called the Senate, and let's hope it's not too late!
Senate Republican leader
Mon, 12/06/2010 - 13:14 — MG (not verified)Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell called the Saturday vote “a total waste” of time and dubbed Democrats’ effort “a vote to slam job creators with a massive tax increase.”
Forget Charles Rangel. McConnell is the one who should, and must, be censured for his party's total obstruction in the face of crisis. If there are ethical violations being committed in Congress, most assuredly Mitch McConnell is leading the pack in his instruction to his Republican charges to block all business in Congress. Americans unite and send this scourge away!