PUT ALL THOSE SONS OF BITCHES IN JAIL. CHENEY FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He was massively supported and reelected. Everybody, including the democrats in congress new what he was doing. The docile european governments accept anything we say. He was divinely inspired. So there is no ground for prosecution. Divine law is above the law enacted by men. Bush like Blair is above the law. Being the King, the “Decider” “l’etat ce moi”, he decided to make his own law with Gonzales’ legal erudition. His law superseded the Geneva Convention and any other national or international law he considered useless. The UN was muted, with tacit agreement. Hard to swallow but it is a waste of time to entertain the idea of prosecuting him. Like Blair or Asnar. Quite probably they will be awarded the Nobel for their contribution to the advancement of the international law.

Don't forget Henry Kissinger!

Before you get too carried away, please go to youtube and do a search under WATERBOARDING, there are several different variations shown. None of them threaten the life of the subject, the technic simply scares the hell out of him, and it only takes 10 seconds. If this technic saves even one GI's life with the knowledge gained it is worth it. If you have no idea what WATERBOARDING actually is, you should not be commenting on this topic.

For Midwest Tom:

If you believe waterboarding is so benign I'd love to give you a demonstration. Just name the time and place. But don't expect you fantasy 10 minute demo.

@Midwest Tom: Last time we heard from you here, you were defending war and now you are defending torture. I can see that you are one of those ghoulish people who think that pain and suffering, death, earth killing and other bad stuff is fine, especially if it doesn't happen to you. I feel sorry for you. It must be really harsh to not have a conscience or a heart.

Midwest Tom, you seem to be an expert. Fine, you are entitled to your opinion. Would you agree and justify any other government applying it to anyone of us? Would you recommend opening waterboarding facilities in all courts to facilitate the “spill of beans” of any defendant who declares himself not guilty? The problem is that we have opened the door for other to follow the same path and we will have no legal stance against them. This should be a matter of concern for us.

Thank you for having Bill Quigley as one of your columnists. I admire his work as a lawyer on behalf of social justice.

I just love a good confession, especially the part about how history will remember him in a good light, all his crimes against humanity, treason, torture, mass murder, will history forgive him? This sounds all too much like the usual setup, bait the people by admitting to illegal acts, then reveal a falsified piece of intelligence justifying those very acts.
One Idea comes to mind. Remember the twin towers collapse, and how the 911 commission, NIST, FEMA all claimed it was jet fuel/office fires and warped steel which lead to global collapse or the "pancake theory"?
Over a third of the U.S. calls bullshit on that story. Including scientists, engineers, and physicists who beleive something entirely else, something quite sinister was at play on that fateful day.

I can see the headlines now," FBI finds evidence that Saddam nuked the twin towers, mystery solved"!

we don't need no stinkin' investigation. we know he did it, he has said so himself, lock his sorry butt up.

Waterboarding is torture. At the end of WWII we tried and executed numerous Japanese commanders for using the technique on Americans. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld are all responsible for war crimes against humanity.
They all need to be tried at the Hague, just like the Nazis were in Nuremberg.
Justice, must be done for the people of Iraq, for the Iraqi and American soldiers that have died in this Illegal War.
If justice is not done, If these criminals are not brought to justice for the crimes that they have committed against humanity, then the World will completely reject the Rule of Law that America stands for!!!
The Rule of Law, Our Democracy, and Our U.S. Congress must immediately act and comply with the International Court of Justice, to punish these men for the crimes that they have committed.

Those two criminals in the last White House gave the green light to waterboarding without regard to how it would have impacted on our troops, nor did they seem to care.
As a Veteran of WW2, I have seen Presidents come and go but I think George is the worst.

"Death camps are fake", the" moon lannding an elaborate hoax", "JFK shot by a lone gunman" and now "Waterboarding is not torture". Coming up next "Water is not wet".

Waterboarding? How about the treason and murder of 9/11 that was planned and executed by the neocons? Oh, excuse me for mentioning it. The truth of the 9/11 coup is so inconvenient. Better to squabble about a bit of torture.

"We therefore urge the Obama administration and the Department of Justice to act upon their recognition that waterboarding is torture as a matter of law, to investigate and prosecute acts of torture and other serious violations carried out by officials of the former administration, including George W. Bush."
Hahahaha hahaha hahahaha hahaha.....phew...man.. that is the comedic quote of the 21st century. Never gonna happen America, law and fight left this sorry ass country long ago.

perhaps Obama was waterboarded

Is your name Obama?

The truth of the matter is that 9-11 was and is an inside job. The evidence clearly shows that the official explanation is a myth and that our ongoing wars and occupations are crimes. Firemen, pilots, architects and engineers, phyicists,and those in military and intelligence have all brought forward evidence that our government and our media are lieing. This holiday , give your friends and family something that will renew their souls and save America from itself, give them the truth. 9-11 was an inside job.

Face it. Americans are mostly abysmally ignorant people who don't really give a s__t about human rights, our Constitutional rights, and justice. As far as I can tell, we are living in 1920s Germany. The rest are not ignorant but care more about making money and staying on top than about a country where equality, human rights, and opportunity exist. I haven't given up yet, but I would leave this so-called democracy in a second if I didn't have to leave some of my children and grandchildren. As a result, I'm more than willing to get arrested and go to jail. Anyone care to join me? Nothing will change unless we start sitting in and putting our bodies on the line.

911 I wonder if we will ever do a investagation as to why the building fell the way they did?????
Hopefully W will have his day in court in Spain to explain it all!!

...["Dear" 'Homeland Security (DHS)', if you come to visit me without Constitutional, true and/or just cause again, pursuant to my un- and/or in- alienable and immutable God-given Human and Civil Duties and/or Rights under the First and Fifth Amendments of the U.S. and State Constitutions to remain silent, etc., and under advice of legal counsel, I'm not going to answer any of your questions, so you might as well "disappear" me at that time and "get it over with". Besides, you cannot have any legitimate reason(s) for visiting me, because I don't do, and am not doing, ANYTHING wrong. All I do is, completely non-violently stand up for THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, the U.S. Constitution; and, contrary to agencies like your's making it out to supposedly be such, standing up for the Constitution is NOT a crime. In fact, it is THE DUTY OF EVERY SINGLY AMERICAN, including each and every one of you DHS, etc., officers, to do:

"...(W)hen a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce (The People) under absolute Despotism (as IS happening right now), it is their right, IT IS THEIR DUTY, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security (and liberty, freedom and happiness)..."! --Declaration of Independence, 1776. [Emphasis and/or clarification(s) added by me.] Since the Declaration of Independence is joined to the U.S. Constitution under the Supremecy Clause of the latter, it is part and parcel of the Constitution, and it is part of the Supreme LAW of the Land just like the rest of the Constitution; therefore, it is also the DUTY of every single American including government officers to OBEY it, just as it is their DUTY to obey ALL of the Constitution.

You should be visiting Barry Soetoro, aka Barach Obama. He is openly advocating destroying the sovereignty and independence of the U.S., and bringing the U.S. under one-world government, which is a blatant violation of the Supreme Law of the Land, the U.S. Constitution, and therefore is treason, thereby making him a traitor to the Constitution and to the United States as a whole. But, no, instead you are visiting millions of completely innocent Americans, like the "brownshirts" and Gestapo visited, and eventually "disappeared", completely innocent German citizens in Nazi Germany; and even though most of those completely innocent Americans, like myself, do NOT violate the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land, do NOT call for the eradication of U.S. independence and sovereignty, and therefore are NOT traitors like Barach Obama.

Yet you treat those innocent Americans like they are supposedly violating the law simply for standing up for the Supreme Law of the Land, the U.S. Constitution. But your doing so is traitorousness in and of itself; and, if you wish to be True Americans, you must stop ALL of this unconstitutional and criminal activity against the American people, even if it means having to quit working for, or being fired by, the U.S. government. If you do not stop being involved in ANY AND ALL unconstitutional and criminal activity(ies), you are committing treason against the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the U.S., against the country itself, and against the American people.

In other words, you should be going after the REAL criminals, and the REAL terorists, and stop making law abiding Constitutionalists out to be so-called "terrorists" and visiting them to ascertain if they're a "threat". It is obvious that they are no true threat, unless of course you are seeking to criminalize, being a direct part of criminalizing, and/or are enforcing the criminalization of, people for being nothing but anti-violence, and non-violently standing up against the true criminal activities against the Supreme Law of the Land, the U.S. Constitution; which, as already spelled out above, they have the DUTY to do if they are True Americans, and which you also have the DUTY to do if you are to be True Americans.

But because most of you will not stop all of the true terrorism and treason you are perpetrating against the American people and the the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land, the following is for you and all those who do not realize the complete accuracy, truthfulness and True Patriotism of all that has been written here, totally agree with it, completely stand by it and what it says, and/or totally support the right to say it even if you don't entirely agree with all of it, without ANY retribution and/or retaliation by the U.S. government for stating it:

"It is written, thus says the Lord {God through Jesus the Christ, the Word(s) of God, and the Maker / Creator of all things except evil}...": "...Get... behind Jesus the Christ, Satan{ist(s), which you are whether you know it or not}..."! "...You are of your father the devil, and {you perpetrate} the lies {and violations of, as well as crimes against, the U.S. Constitution(s), in addition to unconstitutional and otherwise illegal and/or unlawful criminal activities, and human rights and civil liberties violations} of your father {that make all of you traitors to God; We, the People; the country; the U.S. Constitution; the State Constitutions; and to the entire world (again, whether you know it or not)}..."! Legal disclaimer: The stating and/or quotation of the foregoing is nothing but my legal duty and right to quote, say and/or to write to the government, under the freedom of religion, belief, expression, speech and redress of grievance clauses of the First Amendment of the federal and state Constitutions.

(A completely true and correct copy of this entire comment in response to the article in this thread, along with where it was posted thereon, has been cc'ed to the National Lawyers Guild {NLG}, the American Civil Liberties Union {ACLU}, and Amnesty International {AI} {and others}; all of which I am a bonafide member in good standing of {the NLG as a fully physically disabled former legal worker; legal assistant and/or paralegal}...

Midwest Tom: ----- We could have saved thousands of soldiers' lives plus hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's lives had Bush/Cheney not started these illegal wars based on lies. As for Congress, what did they really know? The same crap that was shoved down our throats by the "accommodating media"??? Then there's the case of the Anthrax letters mailed to Democratic Senators when they refused to go along with the Patriot Act. There are ways to coerce besides waterboarding .... and such tactics accomplished what Bush/Cheney planned even before they took office.

Dear Genklag: Don't forget "The Earth Is Flat".

CORRECTION (adding the references for the Scripture verses that I meant to give, but neglected to---also, there are a couple of other grammatical mistakes I made, which I think are more than obvious, but it's too much to correct them and re-post the whole comment, so I'll only make this correction):

"It is written, thus says the Lord {God through Jesus the Christ, the Word(s) of God, and the Maker / Creator of all things except evil}...": "...Get... behind Jesus the Christ, Satan{ist(s), which you are whether you know it or not}..."! "...You are of your father the devil, and {you perpetrate} the lies {and violations of, as well as crimes against, the U.S. Constitution(s), in addition to unconstitutional and otherwise illegal and/or unlawful criminal activities, and human rights and civil liberties violations} of your father {that make all of you traitors to God; We, the People; the country; the U.S. Constitution; the State Constitutions; and to the entire world (again, whether you know it or not)}..."! {Matthew 16:23 and John 8:44; etc.; emphasis and/or clarification(s) added by me.} Legal disclaimer: The stating and/or quotation of the foregoing is nothing but my legal duty and right to quote, say and/or to write to the government, under the freedom of religion, belief, expression, speech and redress of grievance clauses of the First Amendment of the federal and state Constitutions...

...And, also according to Godless peoples' "logic", all of the Apostles must have been so-called "nutcases" too, who further quoted the Old Testament throughout their God-inspired writings throughout the New Testament; particularly the Apostle Paul, who wrote most of the New Testament (but including the Apostles, James, Peter, John, and Jude, etc.); as well as, though they did not contribute to the writing of the New Testament, countless disciples who undoubtedly quoted the Old Testament when they "witnessed of Jesus the Christ" to people; not to mention the millions of people who have believed wholeheartedly in Christianity, and quoted the Scriptures, both Old and New Testament, ever since...

...And, lest someone (and/or some people) falsely claim that this subject matter is allegedly not germain to, on-topic and/or related to the material in the article which brought about this thread, it most-certainly IS pertinent and related to the topic of the article and this thread, as is God's Word(s) TO EVERYTHING, and most-particularly to discussions of torture and humankind's inhumanity to their fellow-humankind. Therefore, I am NOT off-topic. In fact, the entire comment that I made above for which this correction is added, is completely pertinent to the subject matter at hand, especially the destruction of the rule of law, human rights, civil liberties, and the totally-evil rationalizations for torture, such crimes against God, human rights violations, crimes against humanity, and crimes against the Law(s) of God, against international law(s), against the against the people of the entire world, against the entire world as a whole, against the U.S. Constitution, against other U.S. law(s), against The People of the U.S., and against the country of the U.S. as a whole.

Please forgive any (other) grammatical mistakes that I may have made which I did not catch and/or correct. Thank you.]

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