Don't Tone It Down, Amp It Up: In Praise of Incivility in Politics
Thursday 20 January 2011
by: Dave Lindorff | This Can't Be Happening | Op-Ed
"The wranglers over creeds and dogmas are perhaps the most persistent of all agitators; the bedrock idea being that a wrong exists which must be found and exterminated."
-- Eugene Debs
"Get it straight, I'm not a humanitarian, I'm a hell-raiser."
--Mother Jones
I’m going to take issue here with the mainstream media commentariat (and even some on the left) about the issue of “civil discourse.”
There are two main arguments being made, and both are wrong.
One is that our politic process is being damaged by violent and intemperate rhetoric, and the other is that this violence is coming from both the right and the left.
On the first point, there is a big difference between violent rhetoric and intemperate rhetoric. Violent rhetoric is where a speaker actually tries to incite her or his listeners to violent action. Intemperate rhetoric is simply rhetoric that is not temperate, as in polite, respectful, calm. That is, it is angry, it perhaps heaps scorn on some other party, it condemns the actions and motives of an opponent, and it seeks to rile up its intended audience.
There are times, I would agree, when violent rhetoric can be akin to the proverbial shout of “Fire!” in a crowded theater, and such speech--the kind of speech that used to be used to rouse a crowd to become a lynch mob--should rightly be viewed as a criminal act. But riling up a crowd to kill somebody is different from riling up a crowd to, say, damage construction equipment that is about to destroy a poor neighborhood to make way for a casino development, riling up a crowd of workers to break into a plant and engage in a sit-down strike to prevent the shipping of the machinery overseas, or riling up a crowd to resist a forcible eviction in a foreclosure.
There is a big difference between shouting “Kill the Nigger!” as listeners did during some Sarah Palin campaign events in 2008, while she said nothing to dissuade the racist crowd, on the one hand, and, on the other, declaring as I and others have done that those who would cut Medicare and Medicaid funding are condemning thousands of people to death, or writing, as I have also done, that President Obama, like President Bush before him, is a war criminal for ordering the indiscriminate use of drone missile attacks on Afghan and Pakistani housing compounds known to be filled with families, or for refusing to punish those who ordered torture, and that the punishment for such crimes can include execution.
In the first instance, a public figure, Sarah Palin, is through her silence, encouraging actual calls for the assassination of a presidential candidate. In the latter instance, facts are simply being stated. No one is being targeted for violent action.
To say that we should have civility in our discourse is a code word in the media and in political debate, for saying that we should not be exposing our leaders as criminals, or calling for their removal from office. Civility is really the death of politics, which thrives on passion and withers with civility.
A war now going into its 10th year does not need civility from a populace that polls show is 63 percent in favor of its termination. An unpopular, illegal and pointless war calls for radical rhetoric and radical action--street protests, blockades of troop transports, destruction of military equipment, disruption of staged patriotic events to support the war--whatever it takes to bring the war to an end. And it calls for language that will encourage such actions.
An attack on Social Security and Medicare, the two key remaining supports of the poor and the elderly in our increasingly Dickensian society, does not call for civil discourse. It calls for rousing speeches that will incite massive marches on Washington, the disruption of the political events featuring those who will not defend those programs, and that call for the removal from office of those who would deliberately turn the nation’s elderly and disabled out on the streets. Those who would cut Social Security and Medicare should be called out for what they are: killers of the disabled and the elderly.
As for this liberal tripe that violent, uncivil rhetoric and action is coming from the left and the right, this is complete nonsense, and when such assertions come from liberal pundits and politicians, it is simply a case of journalistic or political cowardice. Leftists have not called for people to get out their guns. They have not been calling for the execution of candidates. They have not even been calling their political opponents traitors. (Well, okay, I for one have said that the American heads of multinational corporations who lobby Washington on behalf of policies that are gutting the US economy to profit the global operations of their enterprises are “traitors” to the US, but that’s simply stating the truth: they are Americans who are deliberately, if furtively, damaging the national security of their own nation, on behalf of corporate entities that are only, at best, nominally American.) If anything, political rhetoric on the left is far too civil and bloodless.
It needs to be amped up, not down.
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Yes! Outstanding! Whatever
Thu, 01/20/2011 - 17:24 — john (not verified)Yes! Outstanding! Whatever happened to the "marketplace of free ideas" that is "uninhibited, robust, and wide open"?
Regarding Mr. Lindorff's
Thu, 01/20/2011 - 18:31 — Anonymous (not verified)Regarding Mr. Lindorff's comments on the first argument: I suppose it comes down to a matter of semantics. My idea of violent rhetoric is another person's idea of intemperate or impolite rhetoric. The point is that violence and mob-actions are not the answer, and neither is name-calling or incivility. Have we really regressed to the point where we cannot have civil (yes, civil!) discussions about our differences of opinion? Have we regressed to the point where we no longer feel the need to control our passions, so that we act like children who don't get their own way? Will emotional outbursts really allow us to regain the upper hand? At times, it does in fact seem as though the answer to all of these questions is YES! But, I believe that it is possible to be passionate without being boorish, and out of control. I am encouraged and hopeful that many people are beginning to have second thoughts about the octane-fueled, over-the-top rhetoric which has infected this nation over the past several years. It is time to step back from the abyss. Granted, there is much to be upset about regarding politics today, but I am hoping thoughtful people will realize that we vote not with our mouths, or our fists, or with guns, but with our ballots! If/when our votes no longer count, then perhaps it will be time to take up some of these more radical approaches........
Lindorff is 100% correct.
Thu, 01/20/2011 - 19:48 — RichP (not verified)Lindorff is 100% correct. Mass murder is not civil, and there is no reason criticism of it should be civil.
To top off the article's complaints about war and social spending, there is the third US war against its own people. The first was the native American genocide (millions dead), the second the slave war (over half million dead), and we still have the war on drugs (roughly 200K dead in the US, and many more in the rest of America).
A quote from the story,
Fri, 01/21/2011 - 09:06 — Reverend Lauren Unruh (not verified)A quote from the story,
"Leftists have not called for people to get out their guns. ... They have not even been calling their political opponents traitors."
Not true.
I'm a 'leftist' and I have been calling various people out as traitors, treasonous, mass murderers, war criminals, etc, so to say that leftists are not doing that is ignoring all of it that I am doing.
I don't see the point in that.
I'm correct most of the time and I drive the righties right up the wall. I don't publicly call people out as war criminals or frauds unless I really think they are, and since I do a lot of research, I bet my track record is pretty good.
If you are a righty who is afraid of the truth because of your own record and actions, then I bet my comments are perfectly terrifying.
But, if you are a journalist on the left, ignoring my ministry is basically inexcusable.
I do not believe I've heard
Fri, 01/21/2011 - 11:03 — A traitor is someone who is betraying her or his country (not verified)I do not believe I've heard any leftist calling for the assassination of anyone. Correct me if I'm wrong.
As for calling someone a traitor, it should be specifically and legally correct. The word is powerful and should be used correctly. I do, for example, consider the CEOs of companies like Exxon and other firms that earn the bulk of their profits overseas and that have the bulk of their assets overseas to be foreign agents, so when they present themselves as Americans and lobby Congress for laws that benefit their companies, and pose as loyal Americans while doing this, they are actually committing acts of treason by sabotaging the US economy and injuring the broad public.
Calling someone a war criminal is a proper thing to do if they are committing war crimes. Bush and Cheney are both war criminals for starting a war of aggression against Iraq. Obama is a war criminal for refusing to prosecute them for that crime and for authorizing and encouraging the act of torture.
These are proper names to call people.
Dave Lindorff
www.thiscantbehappening.net
@Reverend Lauren
Fri, 01/21/2011 - 17:29 — Anonymous (not verified)@Reverend Lauren Unruh...
It's great to see that you're speaking your mind. Doing your research and then having the courage to tell it like it is.
But frankly, unless you have to sort of audience Limbaugh, Hannity or Beck commands, you're just whistling in the wind. You can slam people for being traitors all you like but you're "incivility" isn't going to shift the national mood one iota... one way or the other.
Just to be clear. I truly admire what you are doing. I think it's the right thing. But you simply don't have the following to warp the "discourse" like the pros.
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