EXCLUSIVE: Controversial Drug Given to All Guantanamo Detainees Akin to "Pharmacologic Waterboarding"
Wednesday 01 December 2010
by: t r u t h o u t | Investigative Report

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The Defense Department forced all "war on terror" detainees at the Guantanamo Bay prison to take a high dosage of a controversial antimalarial drug, mefloquine, an act that an Army public health physician called "pharmacologic waterboarding."
The US military administered the drug despite Pentagon knowledge that mefloquine caused severe neuropsychiatric side effects, including suicidal thoughts, hallucinations and anxiety. The drug was used on the prisoners whether they had malaria or not.
Interviews conducted over the past two months with tropical disease experts and a review of Defense Department documents and peer-reviewed journals show there were no preexisting cases where mefloquine was ever prescribed for mass presumptive treatment of malaria.
The revelation, which has not been previously reported, was buried in documents publicly released by the Defense Department (DoD) two years ago as part of the government's investigation into the June 2006 deaths of three Guantanamo detainees.
Army Staff Sgt. Joe Hickman, who was stationed at Guantanamo at the time of the suicides in 2006, and has presented evidence that demonstrates the three detainees could not have died by hanging themselves, noticed in the detainees' medical files that they were given mefloquine. Hickman has been investigating the circumstances behind the detainees' deaths for nearly four years.
Click here to listen to Jason Leopold discuss this story on The Peter B. Collins Show.
All detainees arriving at Guantanamo in January 2002 were first given a treatment dosage of 1,250 mg of mefloquine, before laboratory tests were conducted to determine if they actually had the disease, according to a section of the DoD documents entitled "Standard Inprocessing Orders For Detainees." The 1,250 mg dosage is what would be given if the detainees actually had malaria. That dosage is five times higher than the prophylactic dose given to individuals to prevent the disease.
Maj. Remington Nevin, an Army public health physician, who formerly worked at the Armed Forces Health Surveillance Center and has written extensively about mefloquine, said in an interview the use of mefloquine "in this manner ... is, at best, an egregious malpractice."
The government has exposed detainees "to unacceptably high risks of potentially severe neuropsychiatric side effects, including seizures, intense vertigo, hallucinations, paranoid delusions, aggression, panic, anxiety, severe insomnia, and thoughts of suicide," said Nevin, who was not speaking in an official capacity, but offering opinions as a board-certified, preventive medicine physician. "These side effects could be as severe as those intended through the application of 'enhanced interrogation techniques.'"
Mefloquine is also known by its brand name Lariam. It was researched by the US Army in the 1970s and licensed by the Food and Drug Administration in 1989. Since its introduction, it has been directly linked to serious adverse effects, including depression, anxiety, panic attacks, confusion, hallucinations, bizarre dreams, nausea, vomiting, sores and homicidal and suicidal thoughts. It belongs to a class of drugs known as quinolines, which were part of a 1956 human experiment study to investigate "toxic cerebral states," as part of the CIA's MKULTRA mind-control program.
The Army tapped the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research (WRAIR) to develop mefloquine and it was later licensed to the Swiss pharmaceutical company F. Hoffman-La Roche. The first human trials of mefloquine were conducted in the mid-1970s on prisoners, who were deliberately inoculated with malaria at Stateville Correctional prison near Joliet, Illinois, the site of controversial antimalarial experimentation in the early 1940s.
The drug was administered to Guantanamo detainees without regard for their medical or psychological history, despite its considerable risk of exacerbating pre-existing conditions. Mefloquine is also known to have serious side effects among individuals under treatment for depression or other serious mental health disorders, which numerous detainees were said to have been treated for, according to their attorneys and published reports.
Dr. G. Richard Olds, a tropical disease specialist and the founding dean of the Medical School at the University of California at Riverside, said, in his "professional opinion there is no medical justification for giving a massive dose of mefloquine to an asymptomatic individual."
"I also do not see the medical benefit of treating a person in Cuba with a prophylactic dose of mefloquine,” Olds said. Mefloquine is "a fat soluble, and as a result, it does build up in the body and has a very long half-life.This is important since a massive dose of this drug is not easily corrected and the ‘side effects’ of the medication could last for weeks or months."
In 2002, when the prison was established and mefloquine first administered, there were dozens of suicide attempts at Guantanamo. That same year, the DoD stopped reporting attempted suicides.
By February 2002, there were at least 459 detainees imprisoned at Guantanamo. In March of that year, according to the book "Saving Grace at Guantanamo Bay: A Memoir of a Citizen Warrior" by Montgomery Granger, "the situation" at the prison began "deteriorating rapidly."
"There is more and more psychosis becoming evident in detainees ...," wrote Granger, an Army Reserve major and medic who was stationed at Guantanamo in 2002. "We already have probably a dozen or so detainees who are psychiatric cases. The number is growing."
"Presumptively Treating" Malaria
Though malaria is nonexistent in Cuba, DoD spokeswoman Maj. Tanya Bradsher told Truthout that the US government was concerned that the disease would be reintroduced into the country as detainees were transferred to the prison facility in January 2002.
A "decision was made," Bradsher said in an email, to "presumptively treat each arriving Guantanamo detainee for malaria to prevent the possibility of having mosquito-borne [sic] spread from an infected individual to uninfected individuals in the Guantanamo population, the guard force, the population at the Naval base or the broader Cuban population."
But Granger wrote in his book that a Navy entomologist was present at Guantanamo in January and February 2002 and during that time only identified insects that were nuisances and did not identify any insects that were carriers of a disease, such as malaria.
Nevertheless, Bradsher said the "mefloquine dosage [given to detainees] was entirely for public health purposes ... and not for any other purpose" and "is completely appropriate."
"The risks and benefits to the health of the detainees were central considerations," she added.
A September 13, 2002, DoD memo governing the operational use of mefloquine said, "Malaria is not a threat in Guantanamo Bay." Indeed, there have only been two to three reported cases of malaria at Guantanamo.
The DoD memo, signed by Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs William Winkenwerder, was sent to then-Rep. John McHugh, the Republican chairman of the House Veterans Affairs Subcommittee on Military Personnel. McHugh is now Secretary of the Army.
A Senate staff member told Truthout the Senate Armed Services Committee was never briefed about malaria concerns at Guantanamo nor was the committee made aware of "any issue related to the use of mefloquine or any other anti-malarial drug" related to "the treatment of detainees."
When questions were raised at a February 19, 2002 meeting of the Armed Forces Epidemiological Board (AFEB) about what measures the military was taking to address malaria concerns at Guantanamo, Navy Capt. Alan J. Yund, the liaison officer to the AFEB, did not disclose that mefloquine was being administered to detainees as a form of presumptive treatment and indicated that infected detainees who may have had the disease would be treated on a case-by-case basis.
Yund also said detainees were given a different anti-malarial drug known as primaquine and noted that "informed consent" was "absolutely practiced" prior to administering drugs, an assertion that contradicts claims made by numerous detainees who said they were forced to take drugs even if they protested. Yund did not return calls for comment.
Bradsher declined to respond to a follow-up question about who made the decision to presumptively treat detainees with mefloquine.
An April 16, 2002, meeting of the Interagency Working Group for Antimalarial Chemotherapy, which DoD, along with other federal government agencies, is a part of, was specifically dedicated to investigating mefloquine's use and the drug's side effects. The group concluded that study designs on mefloquine up to that point were flawed or biased and criticized DoD medical policy for disregarding scientific fact and basing itself more on "sensational or best marketed information."
The Working Group called for additional research, and warned, "other treatment regimes should be carefully considered before mefloquine is used at the doses required for treatment."
Still, despite the red flags that pointed to mefloquine as a high-risk drug, the DoD's mefloquine program proceeded.
In fact, a June 2004 set of guidelines issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says mefloquine should only be used when other standard drugs were not available, as it "is associated with a higher rate of severe neuropsychiatric reactions when used at treatment doses."
According to the CDC, "'presumptive treatment' without the benefit of laboratory confirmation should be reserved for extreme circumstances (strong clinical suspicion, severe disease, impossibility of obtaining prompt laboratory confirmation)."
A CDC spokesman refused to comment about the "presumptive treatment" of malaria at Guantanamo and referred questions to the DoD.
Nevin said, if "mass presumptive treatment has been given consistently, many dozens of detainees, possibly hundreds, would almost certainly have suffered such disabling adverse events."
"It appears that for years, senior Defense health leaders have condoned the medically indefensible practice of using high doses of mefloquine ostensibly for mass presumptive treatment of malaria among detainees from the Middle East and Asia lacking any evidence of disease," Nevin said. "This is a use for which there is no precedent in the medical literature and which is specifically discouraged among refugees by malaria experts at the Centers for Disease Control."
Even proponents of limited mefloquine usage are seriously questioning the logic behind the DoD's actions. Professor James McCarthy, chair of the Infectious Diseases Division of the Queensland Institute of Medicine in Australia, who is an advocate of the safe use of mefloquine under proper safeguards, and takes it himself when traveling, told Truthout he was unaware of the use of mefloquine for mass presumptive treatment as described by the DoD, but could imagine it under certain circumstances.
However, when informed that lab tests were available and the detainees were screened for the blood product G6PD, used to determine the suitability of certain antimalarial drugs, McCarthy found the DoD's use of mefloquine at Guantanamo difficult to understand and "hard to support on pure clinical grounds as an antimalarial."
Treatment, Torture or an Experiment?
Another striking point about the DoD's decision to presumptively treat mostly Muslim detainees with mefloquine beginning in 2002 is that it is the exact opposite of how the DoD responded to malaria concerns among the Haitian refugees who were held at Guantanamo a decade earlier.
Between 1991 and 1992, more than 14,000 Haitian refugees were held in temporary camps set up at Guantanamo. A large number of Haitian refugees - 235 during a four-month period - were diagnosed with malaria. But instead of presumptively treating the refugee population at Guantanamo, the DoD conducted laboratory tests first and only the individuals who were found to be malaria carriers were administered chloroquine.
Another example of how the DoD approached malaria treatment differently for other subjects is in the case of Army Rangers who returned from malarial areas of Afghanistan between June and September 2002 and were infected with the disease at an attack rate of 52.4 cases per 1,000 soldiers.
However, the Rangers did not receive mass presumptive treatment of mefloquine. They were given other standard drugs after laboratory tests, according to documents obtained by Truthout.
Nevin said the DoD's treatment of Haitian refugees represented "a situation that arguably presented a much higher risk of disease and secondary transmission, but one which US medical experts stated at the time could be safely managed through more conservative and focused measures."
Why did the government use the "conservative and focused" approach in treating Haitian refugees and the Army rangers, but then revert to presumptive mefloquine treatment in the case of the Guantanamo detainees, who - a month after the prison facility opened in January 2002 - were stripped of their protections under the Geneva Conventions?
According to Sean Camoni, a Seton Hall University law school research fellow, "there is no legitimate medical purpose for treating malaria in this way" and the drug's severe side effects may actually have been the DoD's intended impact in calling for the drug's usage.
Camoni and several other Seton Hall law school students have been working on a report about mefloquine use on Guantanamo detainees. Their work was conducted independently of Truthout's investigation.
A copy of the Seton Hall report, "Drug Abuse? An Exploration of the Government's Use of Mefloquine at Guantanamo," says mefloquine's extreme side effects may have violated a provision in the antitorture statute related to the use of "mind altering substances or other procedures" that "profoundly disrupts the senses or the personality."
Legal memos prepared in August 2002 by former DoD attorneys Jay Bybee and John Yoo for the CIA's torture program permitted the use of drugs for interrogations. The authority was also contained in a legal memo Yoo prepared for the DoD less than a year later after Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld convened a working group to address "policy considerations with respect to the choice of interrogation techniques."
In September, Truthout reported that the DoD's inspector general (IG) conducted an investigation into allegations that detainees in custody of the US military were drugged. The IG's report, which remains classified, was completed a year ago and was shared with the Senate Armed Services Committee.
Kathleen Long, a spokeswoman for the Armed Services Committee, told Truthout at the time that the IG report did not substantiate allegations of drugging of prisoners for the "purposes of interrogation."
The medical files for detainee 693 released in 2008 shows that, two weeks after he first started taking mefloquine in June 2002, he was interviewed by Guantanamo medical personnel and reported he was suffering from nightmares, hallucinations, anxiety auditory and visual hallucinations, anxiety, sleep loss and suicidal thoughts.
The detainee said he had previously been treated for anxiety and had a family history of mental illness. He was diagnosed with adjustment disorder, according to the DoD documents. Guantanamo medical staff who interviewed the detainee did not state that he may have been experiencing mefloquine-related side effects in an evaluation of his condition.
Mark Denbeaux, the director of the Seton Hall Law Center for Policy and Research, who looked into the 2006 deaths of the three Guantanamo detainees, said in an interview "almost every remaining question here would be solved if the [detainees'] full medical records were released."
The government has refused to release Guantanamo detainees' medical records, citing privacy concerns in some cases, and assertions that they are "protected" or "classified" in other instances. The few medical records that have been released have been heavily redacted.
"A crucial issue is dosage" Denbeaux said. "Giving detainees toxic doses of mefloquine has mind-altering consequences that may be permanent. Without access to medical records, which the government refuses to release, the use of mefloquine in this manner appears to be grotesque malpractice at best, if not human experimentation or 'enhanced interrogation.' The question is where are the doctors who approved this practice and where are the medical records?"
Bradsher did not respond to questions about whether the government kept data about the adverse effects mefloquine had on detainees.
An absolute prohibition against experiments on prisoners of war is contained in the Geneva Conventions, but President George W. Bush stripped war on terror detainees of those protections. Some of the "enhanced interrogation techniques" also had an experimental quality.
At the same time detainees were given high doses of mefloquine, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz issued a directive changing the rules on human subject protections for DoD experiments, allowing for a waiver of informed consent when necessary for developing a "medical product" for the armed services. Bush also granted unprecedented authority to the secretary of Health and Human Services to classify information as secret.
Briefings on Side Effects
As the DoD was administering mefloquine to Guantanamo prisoners, senior Pentagon officials were being briefed about the drug's dangerous side effects. During one such briefing, questions arose about what steps the military was taking to address malaria concerns among detainees sent to Guantanamo.
Internal documents from Roche, obtained by UPI in 2002, indicated that the pharmaceutical company had been tracking suicidal reactions to Lariam going back to the early 1990s.
In September 2002, Roche sent a letter to physicians and pharmacists stating that the company changed its warning labels for mefloquine.
Roche further said in one of two new warning paragraphs that some of the symptoms associated with mefloquine use included suicidal thoughts and suicide and also "may cause psychiatric symptoms in a number of patients, ranging from anxiety, paranoia, and depression to hallucination and psychotic behavior," which "have been reported to continue long after mefloquine has been stopped."
Military Struggles
Cmdr. William Manofsky, who is retired from the US Navy and currently on disability due to post-traumatic stress disorder and side effects from mefloquine, said those are some of the symptoms he initially suffered from after taking the drug for several months beginning in November 2002 after he was deployed to the Middle East to work on two Naval projects.
In March 2003, "I became violently ill during a night live-fire exercise with the [Navy] SEALS," Manofsky said. "I felt like I was air sick. All the flashing lights from the tracers and rockets ... targeting device made me really sick. I threw up for an hour straight before being medevac'd back to the Special Forces compound where I had my first ever panic attack."
For three years, Manofsky said he had to walk with a cane due to a loss of equilibrium. Numerous other accounts like Manofsky's can be found on the web site lariaminfo.org.
In 2008, Dr. Nevin published a study detailing a high prevalence of mental health contraindications to the safe use of mefloquine in soldiers deployed to Afghanistan. Responding in part to concerns raised by the mefloquine-associated suicide of Army Spc. Juan Torres, internal Army presentations confirmed that the drug had been widely misprescribed to soldiers with contraindications, including to many on antidepressants.
A formal policy memo in February 2009 from Army Surgeon General Eric Schoomaker removed mefloquine as a "first-line" agent, and changed the policy so that mefloquine would not be prescribed to Army personnel unless they had contraindications to the preferred drug, the antibiotic doxycycline. Nor could mefloquine be prescribed to any personnel with a history of traumatic brain injury or mental illness.
By September 2009, the policy was extended throughout the DoD.
New prisoners are no longer arriving at Guantanamo and the prison population has been in decline in recent years as detainees are released or transferred to other countries. Currently, the detainee population at Guantanamo is a reported 174.
But Nevin said the justification the Pentagon offered for using mefloquine to presumptively treat detainees transferred to the prison beginning in 2002 "betrays a profound ignorance of basic principals of tropical medicine and suggests extremely poor, and arguably incompetent, medical oversight that demands further investigation."
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it was clear as far back as
Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:10 — Chip (not verified)it was clear as far back as 2003 that the detainees in Guantanamo were being drugged and that this combined with sensory deprivation and other acts of psychological sadism were driving some of them to smash their heads against walls.
http wcg-darktimediary.blogspot.com/2003/03/turning-talibans-into-turnips.html.
in early 2004 we wrote a letter to senator barbara boxer calling her attention to this matter.
not a peep was heard by from her either by us or in public.
Obviously, "human experiment
Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:13 — Anonymous (not verified)Obviously, "human experiment programs" are not confined to 1956. Why does the term "nazi doctors" keep coming to mind?
Where is the Justice Jackson
Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:48 — JFlenner (not verified)Where is the Justice Jackson who will prosecute Nuremberg Trials II? If s/he is in this country I hope s/he'll stand up soon:
Justice Jackson's Opening Statement for the Prosecution
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/jackson.html
Or maybe he's in Spain?
America is a sick society.!!!
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:44 — AH_Melb (not verified)America is a sick society.!!!
Sick and broken.
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 03:53 — greydog (not verified)Sick and broken.
mefloquine is for the
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 09:44 — Mr happy pants (not verified)mefloquine is for the treatment of malaria idiot.If they wanted to torture someone with drugs they would use something like haldol. .Trying to poison the well eh ?
Give Guantanamo back to
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 09:52 — Rowland (not verified)Give Guantanamo back to Cuba. Right now. Leave the prisoners.
I thought Obama was going to take care of this. Was he stymied by the Party of No, or did he just cave in?
G6PD deficiency is quite
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 10:02 — Anonymous (not verified)G6PD deficiency is quite common in the Middle East; I wonder how many of the prisoners were found to have it. (People with G6PD can't take those malaria drugs, but they have some protection against malaria.) If they didn't give it to the men who had G6PD deficiency, it might be enlightening to compare their behavior, rate of suicide and mental illness, etc., to the men who were given it.
Also, about this: 'He was diagnosed with adjustment disorder.' Gee, why would someone having difficulty adjusting to being locked up in Guantanamo?
Heil Hitler! There is no
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:00 — Anonymous (not verified)Heil Hitler! There is no difference now between the USA and Nazi Germany -- and it doesn't matter which political party is office. There is justice in this world, and justice will bring every man, woman, and child in America to starve just the way they did in Germany after WWII.
Hey mr happy pants -- did
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:02 — krazeeinjun (not verified)Hey mr happy pants -- did you even bother to read the article which describes in clinical detail the effects of mefloquine on humans - particularly those with pre-existing medical or psychological conditions? Of course not -- much easier to just spout off and call the writer an idiot right?
Americans Ingest Large
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:17 — NIH Epidemiologist's Son (not verified)Americans Ingest Large Amounts Of Other Neurotoxic Fluoride Based Pharmaceuticals Without Choice. Fluoridation of drinking water amounts to forced ingestion - if you are too poor to afford an expensive whole house water filter to remove the fluoride for drinking and bathing purposes - it doesn't even help dental health - that was a fraud. Mefloquine is a fluoride drug, as are Prozac, Diflucan, and Cipro - all of them have hideous neurotoxic side effects - read all of the side effects to get the real picture. Hitler added fluoride to the drinking water in Berlin to make the people passive - it blocks thyroid function (actually damages the thyroid gland) as well as directly damaging the brain - something to think about...
The first principle of
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:52 — drosera (not verified)The first principle of medical care--first, do no harm. What about physicians who would knowingly administer drugs with severe side effects--at the same time they have not collected evidence that their patients are sick? They paid as much attention to ethics as Dr. Mengele did in subjecting his Jewish victims to various harsh medical procedures. For shame! I hope their consciences are troubled, though I have little reason to imagine they are.
If the premise of this
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:36 — eatbees (not verified)If the premise of this article is contained in the headline — that the administration of mefloquine to Guantanamo detainees was used as a form of "enhanced interrogation" — then the reporting in the article itself tends to undercut the premise, to wit:
1) Mefloquine is often used by the military to treat malaria, and was in fact developed by the U.S. Army for that purpose;
2) Members of the U.S. armed forces were treated with mefloquine during the same timeframe and suffered similar side effects; were they being "pharmacolgically waterboarded" too?
3) The question isn't whether mefloquine is appropriate to treat malaria, but whether Guantanamo detainees were administered it without actually needing it, in unnecessarily high doses, or without screening for those likely to suffer extreme side effects;
4) If the idea is that mefloquine was administered deliberately to produce anxiety, hallucinations, depression and suicidal tendencies in detainees, no evidence is given for this intent;
5) If the intent was to make detainees more pliable during interrogation (rather like a truth serum), wouldn't the above-mentioned side effects be counterproductive?
I'm certainly no apologist for mistreatment of detainees at Guantanamo, which is rife and well documented — and I appreciate the reporting in this article — but the headline and apparent premise of the article are alarmist and misleading.
You're full of shit, you
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:47 — eatbees (not verified)You're full of shit, you know. If you don't, be sure that the rest of us do.
eatbees your missing the
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:53 — Anonymous (not verified)eatbees your missing the point! The soldiers getting treated with mefloquine were getting 259 mg once a week. The detainees were getting 5 times that amount. The studies on the drug were conducted on people getting 250 mg not 1250mg. That is a ridiculously high dosage for someone that does not have malaria and will almost for sure have side effects. I hate the fact that people can't read.
"You're full of shit, you
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 13:05 — Anonymous (not verified)"You're full of shit, you know. If you don't, be sure that the rest of us do." Eatbees that is a response I would expect from the Bush administration. Read the article than post an intelligent comment. That is what these forms are suppose to be used for.
i've traveled abroad and
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 13:24 — Anonymous (not verified)i've traveled abroad and have been prescribed mefloquine when in areas where there "may" be malaria. it must be used prior to infection and i was aware of its potential side effects.
i think we need to keep a level head here. whatever "devious purpose" you may suppose officials harbored for giving the prophylactic to detainees, it doesn't seem they were "experimented on," let alone does it warrant comparisons to nazi germany.
You say to keep a "level
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 13:52 — Anonymous (not verified)You say to keep a "level head," but that is easy to say when you were given only 250mg of the medicine once a week when you traveled. Would you be able to keep a "level head" if you were given 5 times that amount at 1,250mg! No I'm sorry, I respect your comment but this stuff can not be tolerated any longer.
Would the hidden medical
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 14:32 — Anonymous (not verified)Would the hidden medical records show how many colonoscopies were administered ? How many & how often? Curious minds want to know.
I took Lariam before and
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 15:00 — Michael M. Hughes (not verified)I took Lariam before and during a trip to Costa Rica in 2002. One night, I had what can only be described as a horrific lucid nightmare—image after image of death, dismemberment, and violence, one after another, in a seemingly never-ending montage. And I knew I was dreaming but couldn't wake myself up or stop the imagery.
It was above and beyond any normal nightmare, and I thought I was going permanently insane. When I finally awoke, I was traumatized as if I had actually witnessed the carnage. It was pure Hell. I knew it was the Lariam, and later, found a network of people who had suffered from the drug's effects, and several had experiences very similar to mine.
I wouldn't inflict that kind of mental torture on anyone. This was done intentionally, given the amounts stated (which are far above norms), and is pharmacological torture in the way that drugs like LSD were used in MKULTRA.
This is probably just
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 15:09 — ConnectTheDots (not verified)This is probably just another way to create Terrorists.
In Iraq they pick up people on the street, treat them according to the research done by countless psychiatry programs like mkultra and put them back on the street.
Result is a story in the newspaper, reinforce the myths for the War on Terror.
All healthy humans just want to live their life in peace.
Never every take psycho drugs! Better avoid ANY pills from big pharma (there is a natural based solution for every disorder and disease).
And: never let your kid participate in any psycho tests, they can be a legal basis for forced psycho drug treatment!
17:36 — eatbees 1--LSD was
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 15:41 — Anonymous (not verified)17:36 — eatbees
1--LSD was developed by the US military specifically for covert spy purposes to "enhance" extraction techniques of targeted foreign adversaries. So your statement is of a moot point.
2--Was the US Army being given 5x the doses to "treat malaria" as the Guant detainees were given to supposedly "treat their malaria?"
3--This is not in question since it is now well documented that this is true;
4--If a crime is committed, is an "overtly stated intent" required in order to prove that the crime committed was indeed, a crime?
5--Your own #4 states there was no intent given, therefore, this is a moot point as well.
18:24 — Anonymous -- A
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 15:41 — Anonymous (not verified)18:24 — Anonymous -- A dosage of 5x the standard dose, given the well publicized documentary evidence of the serious side effects at that overdose of a level, absolutely warrants the comparison to the criminality engaged by nazi-styled medical experimenters. This is because that, in fact, several detainees actually died, and the evidence is substantive that the administration of an overdosed quantity of said drug, statistically, would and could cause their deaths vis-a-vis suicide, stroke, or the permanent brain damage of the said detainees who were given the 5x dosages.
This is pure Nazi technique.
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 15:50 — Bite (not verified)This is pure Nazi technique. The U.S. government is violating, ONCE AGAIN, the Nuremberg Guidelines and Geneva Conventions, as well as engaging in medical malpractice. How do you kill this monster, I ask?
If the world didn't hate the
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 16:49 — Z. Stardust (not verified)If the world didn't hate the US before, they certainly have every reason to after all these documents have become exposed. I am glad. It's about time someone started calling out the bully in the playground we call Earth.
I wonder if the detainees
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 17:36 — Daniel LaLiberte (not verified)I wonder if the detainees were warned about the possible side-effects. I somehow doubt that they were. And you can easily imagine the consequences of not being warned, but suffering the side-effects without knowing the possible cause. We should not be surprised that this additional shock effect was intentional.
re Justice Jackson &
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 17:44 — gde (not verified)re Justice Jackson & Nurnberg trials:
The first Nurnberg principle is that obedience to higher authority is not a valid legal defense. The second Nurnberg principle is that being on the winning side is a valid legal defense. Given a conflict between the two, the second principle overrides the first. The US will not try itself for war crimes.
Most people only listen to the propaganda, and don't realize the US military in WW2 was trained by Hitler's and Tojo's forces. Prior to that, they did not know how to fight. While in many ways US forces were not as bad, they did make killing large numbers of civilians a strategic priority. US doctrine has been eased a bit, but millions of citizens still die in US wars despite the lack of foreign threat to the US during these wars. However, these policies are not new. For the first 125 years of the US, the military's prime job was ethnic cleansing and genocide, not to protect the US, but to steal land for it.
The aristocracies and their
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 18:06 — Anonymous (not verified)The aristocracies and their bureacracies throughout the world are faced with the revolt of the common man. Our beast predator class is the mother of all life nightmares.Those within the ideologies of slavery cannot hear anything about their dupedom. The mechanisms for mass dissociation take them away into their fantasies about the nation.As a socialist i bring about cooperation and do things in business/life for mutual benefit.We must create and enforce the science of equality as a political program.We are still ruled by the same aristocracy that has always ruled. We must not trust our thoughts that come of our indocrination voices.So many people who say they know should see the vicious modern state as a mechanism to quell widespread slave revolts.
An American president (or
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 18:26 — Third Chimp (not verified)An American president (or any other country) that is a signatory to the Geneva Convention cannot unilaterally decide which conflicts the convention applies to or not. If the country is at war (and the Bush admin always said they were), then the convention applies. Period. Its time for an international court to prosecute the war crimes of these people. (America: please grow a set and get on with this)
Now imagine this in
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 18:42 — Anonymous (not verified)Now imagine this in combination with vicious dogs barking at you straining at their leashes, strobe lights, and blaring death metal (which most of these inmates had probably never been exposed to).
" What Evil lurks in the
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 18:55 — Arminus Aurelius (not verified)" What Evil lurks in the hearts of men , the Shadow knows "
This was from a radio show " The Shadow " back in the 1950's .
Oh , how true . Nothing has changed except that once the Cheny's and Rumsfeld's a.k.a.
Dr. Strangelove gained power , they destroyed the good name of our beloved country . Do unto others as you would have them do unto you .
An eye for an eye , a tooth for a tooth .
CLOSE GITMO and hold those
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 22:49 — Anonymous (not verified)CLOSE GITMO and hold those people accountable who signed off on doing this to prisoners, all the way up the ladder. Leave no stone unturned; the American people never agreed to any of this; I want everyone involved to do hard time.
The authors have jumped the
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 22:59 — Montgomery J. Granger (not verified)The authors have jumped the gun a bit without waiting for my reply to their query for help on some facts. Although they accurately quote from my book, "Saving Grace at Guantanamo Bay: A Memoir of a Citizen Warrior," they quote me out of context with regard to the apparent mental illness outbreak at Gitmo in early 2002, when I served there as the ranking U.S. Army Medical Department officer with the Joint Detainee Operations Group, responsible for oversight of good guy and bad guy care, treatment of detainees, and preventive and environmental conditions, Geneva and Law of Land Warfare compliance. The coincidence of increased suspicion of mental illness, in hind sight, could have easily been attributed to a variety of factors, and not necessarily had anything whatever to do with malaria prophylaxis. For example, many detainees were also on a hunger and/or thirst strike at the time, which causes psychochemical changes in the brain affecting behavior. We also suspected detainees of going through heroine and other addiction withdrawal, which also causes behavior and mental behavior that is abnormal. The other issue, which I also discuss in my book, is that of the psychological effects of confinement, especially with regard to those detainees whose cultures put a high value on freedom of movement, such as those from Bedouin descent. It seems the authors have been hasty in their conclusions and have excluded evidence that might put their conclusions into question. I am still willing to aid them in their search for the truth, including sharing of medical SOPs, some of which I wrote or had input in writing.
Mr. Granger sounds like you
Fri, 12/03/2010 - 00:13 — Anonymous (not verified)Mr. Granger sounds like you want more press on your poorly written one sided book! While it is true other factors could contribute to detainees mental conditions, it does not negate the dosing w/o regard to medical history or diagnosis. This is obviously abuse. Your point means nothing.
Dr. Montgomery J. Granger...
Fri, 12/03/2010 - 14:19 — Anonymous (not verified)Dr. Montgomery J. Granger... so you were the Mengele in charge at Gitmo. Let us all take note of that.
Granger is not even a doctor
Fri, 12/03/2010 - 14:43 — Anonymous (not verified)Granger is not even a doctor He works at a high school or something like that. I am thankful for our veterans, but this guy really represents himself wrong. I struggled through his book, he does not realize Kaye and Leopold helped him by quoting it.
Since you were at GTMO Mr. Granger, and want to defend the actions of the government down there than answer this. Why was the detainees given 1250mg of this drug? Unlike you, real military doctors are saying it was wrong.
That is what the story is about. Its not about your feelings or your book! You were quoted and quoted correctly I double checked.
Eveything else you have been commenting on about this story is nothing but a terrible attempt to try to promote one of the worst books I have ever read.
Mr. Granger, I was in the
Fri, 12/03/2010 - 14:57 — Anonymous (not verified)Mr. Granger, I was in the active army stationed in bosnia as a truck driver. I knew my job and lead others. That does not mean I was an expert that can speak with authority about that piece keeping mission. I can only speak of what I witnessed, and that is all you can speak of as well. You have no idea about what other commands were doing in Guantanamo or the specifics of how guards ran there shifts. Just talk about what you know. This story is very well written with hard evidence. I agree with others very bad book Mr. Granger
I would like to refer
Fri, 12/03/2010 - 15:20 — Anonymous (not verified)I would like to refer readers to the following book (if you can find it) First printed in hard cover in London & Australia in 1988, ISBN 0-593-01142-2 The US paperback edition (see below) was printed in 1989 by Bantam but was never released because the entire print run was purchased by an agency of the U.S. government, the first example of such a mass purchase in order to suppress the release of a book in U.S. history.
Thomas, Gordon (1989). Journey Into Madness: The True Story of Secret CIA Mind Control and Medical Abuse. Bantam. ISBN 0-553-05357-4.
Our Dr. Granger reminds me of Dr. Ewen Cameron, the Canadian Psychiatrist under contract to the CIA who was one of the key characters in medical torture research. A fascinating read. Check it out.
As much as I despise what's
Fri, 12/03/2010 - 15:51 — Trying not to panic (not verified)As much as I despise what's going on with Gitmo and such, stirring up excitement over misinterpretations and bad data doesn't help.
From the PubChem database entry on mefloquine: "It is very effective against PLASMODIUM FALCIPARUM with very few side effects." I took it prophylactically when traveling to Southeast Asia. Five times the usual prophylactic dose in a high risk environment is not unlike taking bigger than usual doses of antibiotics when appropriate.
After all, you don't want your sleep-deprived, scared out of their wits, inhumanly treated prisoners to actually get sick, do you? If you want them tripping out of their gourds there are many better choices.
Trying not to Panic @20:51:
Fri, 12/03/2010 - 16:35 — FulMetalJacket (not verified)Trying not to Panic @20:51: as the article says quoting a defense department document "malaria is not a threat in Guantanamo Bay." End of story.
And did anyone notice how the Haitian prisoners were treated differently? And there WAS malaria with them.
Tying not to panic. Read the
Fri, 12/03/2010 - 16:53 — Anonymous (not verified)Tying not to panic. Read the article and try again! You never took 1250mg of mefloquine unless you actually had malaria. So you don't have any idea what you are talking about. I hate the fact people cant read or comprehend what things say in writing.
20:51 — Trying not to
Fri, 12/03/2010 - 17:33 — Anonymous (not verified)20:51 — Trying not to panic - "If you want them tripping out of their gourds there are many better choices."
A false argument that is easily rebuffed.
If one wanted to hide that they, in fact, were trying to "trip them out of their gourds," they most arguably would not use something that is demonstrably and specifically for that very purpose. Rather, one would use something that is used for another benign purpose, say something that would treat the existence of malaria, but would also provide for well-known and well-documented "tripping them out of their gourds" side-effects in larger doses, like say quantities at 5 times the standard dose.
@FullMetalJacket
Fri, 12/03/2010 - 20:43 — Jason Leopold (not verified)I am posting this comment on behalf of Jeffrey Kaye:
@FullMetalJacket @21:35
The quote re Guantanamo malaria not being a threat at Guantanamo came from a document from the Interagency Working Group for Antimalarial Chemotherapy which summarized their findings in a meeting on April 16, 2002. It was sent to the chair of the House Armed Services Committee by Deputy Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs, William Winkenwerder, later that year.
This document has since been scrubbed by someone (DoD? the House Armed Services Committee?), but is linked in the article from a copy kept on a Truthout server. (Always download this material, as you never know when the government will decide to pull material, and we can't always wait for Wikileaks to catch up!)
The original URL was:
http://armedservices.house.gov/comdocs/reports/pdfs/02-10-04Mefloquine.pdf
I wrote about this matter over at Firedoglake the other day:
http://my.firedoglake.com/valtin/2010/12/01/expose-gitmo-detainees-mass-recipients-of-controversial-drug/
The question of malarial threat was corroborated in Montgomery Granger's book, which purports to be a journal of his time at Gitmo as a medical officer. He noted that a Navy entomologist found only "nuisance" bugs at Guantanamo. In the literature on malaria, entomologists distinguish between "nuisance" bugs and malaria "vector" mosquitoes, i.e., ones that carry malaria.
That, and other corroborating material, is why we used the quotes from his book. It is not an endorsement or a critique or review of that book.
A follow-up. The URL that
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 13:46 — Jeffrey Kaye (not verified)A follow-up. The URL that appeared to be scrubbed from armed-services.gov, which I noted above at 01:43, appears to be back online now.
I didn't want that to go unremarked.
They were using Larium on
Sat, 12/04/2010 - 19:31 — Anonymous (not verified)They were using Larium on another group of people during that time: US Diplomats. As a diplomat, I was on Larium. High dosage as a preventative measure; It's actually pretty standard.
This doesn't sound like foul play or intentional torture. Just another example of terribly misguided medical policy.