Howard Zinn, A Public Intellectual
Thursday 28 January 2010
by: Henry A. Giroux, t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

(Illustration: Jared Rodriguez / t r u t h o u t)
In 1977 I took my first job in higher education at Boston University. One reason I went there was because Howard Zinn was teaching there at the time. As a high school teacher, Howard's book, "Vietnam: the Logic of Withdrawal," published in 1968, had a profound effect on me. Not only was it infused with a passion and sense of commitment that I admired as a high school teacher and tried to internalize as part of my own pedagogy, but it captured something about the passion, sense of commitment and respect for solidarity that came out of Howard's working-class background. It offered me a language, history and politics that allowed me to engage critically and articulate my opposition to the war that was raging at the time.
I grew up in Providence, Rhode Island, and rarely met or read any working-class intellectuals. After reading James Baldwin, hearing William Kunstler and Stanley Aronowitz give talks, I caught a glimpse of what it meant to occupy such a fragile, contradictory and often scorned location. But reading Howard gave me the theoretical tools to understand more clearly how the mix of biography, cultural capital and class location could be finely honed into a viable and laudable politics.
Later, as I got to know Howard personally, I was able to fill in the details about his working-class background and his intellectual development. We had grown up in similar neighborhoods, shared a similar cultural capital and we both probably learned more from the streets than we had ever learned in formal schooling. There was something about Howard's fearlessness, his courage, his willingness to risk not just his academic position, but also his life, that marked him as special - untainted by the often corrupting privileges of class entitlement.
Before I arrived in Boston to begin teaching at Boston University, Howard was a mythic figure for me and I was anxious to meet him in real life. How I first encountered him was perfectly suited to the myth. While walking to my first class, as I was nearing the university, filled with the trepidation of teaching a classroom of students, I caught my first glimpse of Howard. He was standing on a box with a bullhorn in front of the Martin Luther King memorial giving a talk calling for opposition to Silber's attempt to undermine any democratic or progressive function of the university. The image so perfectly matched my own understanding of Howard that I remember thinking to myself, this has to be the perfect introduction to such a heroic figure.
Soon afterwards, I wrote him a note and rather sheepishly asked if we could meet. He got back to me in a day; we went out to lunch soon afterwards, and a friendship developed that lasted over 30 years. While teaching at Boston University, I often accompanied Howard when he went to high schools to talk about his published work or his plays. I sat in on many of his lectures and even taught one of his graduate courses. He loved talking to students and they were equally attracted to him. His pedagogy was dynamic, directive, focused, laced with humor and always open to dialog and interpretation. He was a magnificent teacher, who shredded all notions of the classroom as a place that was as uninteresting as it was often irrelevant to larger social concerns. He urged his students not just to learn from history, but to use it as a resource to sharpen their intellectual prowess and hone their civic responsibilities.
Howard refused to separate what he taught in the university classroom, or any forum for that matter, from the most important problems and issues facing the larger society. But he never demanded that students follow his own actions; he simply provided a model of what a combination of knowledge, teaching and social commitment meant. Central to Howard's pedagogy was the belief that teaching students how to critically understand a text or any other form of knowledge was not enough. They also had to engage such knowledge as part of a broader engagement with matters of civic agency and social responsibility. How they did that was up to them, but, most importantly, they had to link what they learned to a self-reflective understanding of their own responsibility as engaged individuals and social actors.
He offered students a range of options. He wasn't interested in molding students in the manner of Pygmalion, but in giving them the widest possible set of choices and knowledge necessary for them to view what they learned as an act of freedom and empowerment. There is a certain poetry in his pedagogical style and scholarship and it is captured in his belief that one can take a position without standing still. He captured this sentiment well in a comment he made in his autobiography, "You Can't Be Neutral on a Moving Train." He wrote:
"From the start, my teaching was infused with my own history. I would try to be fair to other points of view, but I wanted more than 'objectivity'; I wanted students to leave my classes not just better informed, but more prepared to relinquish the safety of silence, more prepared to speak up, to act against injustice wherever they saw it. This, of course, was a recipe for trouble."
In fact, Howard was under constant attack by John Silber, then president of Boston University, because of his scholarship and teaching. One expression of that attack took the form of freezing Howard's salary for years.
Howard loved watching independent and Hollywood films and he and I and Roz [Howard's wife] saw many films together while I was in Boston. I remember how we quarreled over "Last Tango in Paris." I loved the film, but he disagreed. But Howard disagreed in a way that was persuasive and instructive. He listened, stood his ground, and, if he was wrong, often said something like, "O.K., you got a point," always accompanied by that broad and wonderful smile.
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What was so moving and unmistakable about Howard was his humility, his willingness to listen, his refusal of all orthodoxies and his sense of respect for others. I remember once when he was leading a faculty strike at BU in the late 1970s and I mentioned to him that too few people had shown up. He looked at me and made it very clear that what should be acknowledged is that some people did show up and that was a beginning. He rightly put me in my place that day - a lesson I never forgot.
Howard was no soppy optimist, but someone who believed that human beings, in the face of injustice and with the necessary knowledge, were willing to resist, organize and collectively struggle. Howard led the committee organized to fight my firing by Silber. We lost that battle, but Howard was a source of deep comfort and friendship for me during a time when I had given up hope. I later learned that Silber, the notorious right-wing enemy of Howard and anyone else on the left, had included me on a top-ten list of blacklisted academics at BU. Hearing that I shared that list with Howard was a proud moment for me. But Howard occupied a special place in Silber's list of enemies, and he once falsely accused Howard of arson, a charge he was later forced to retract once the charge was leaked to the press.
Howard was one of the few intellectuals I have met who took education seriously. He embraced it as both necessary for creating an informed citizenry and because he rightly felt it was crucial to the very nature of politics and human dignity. He was a deeply committed scholar and intellectual for whom the line between politics and life, teaching and civic commitment collapsed into each other.
Howard never allowed himself to be seduced either by threats, the seductions of fame or the need to tone down his position for the standard bearers of the new illiteracy that now populates the mainstream media. As an intellectual for the public, he was a model of dignity, engagement and civic commitment. He believed that addressing human suffering and social issues mattered, and he never flinched from that belief. His commitment to justice and the voices of those expunged from the official narratives of power are evident in such works as his monumental and best-known book, "A People's History of the United States," but it was also evident in many of his other works, talks, interviews and the wide scope of public interventions that marked his long and productive life. Howard provided a model of what it meant to be an engaged scholar, who was deeply committed to sustaining public values and a civic life in ways that linked theory, history and politics to the everyday needs and language that informed everyday life. He never hid behind a firewall of jargon, refused to substitute irony for civic courage and disdained the assumption that working-class and oppressed people were incapable of governing themselves.
Unlike so many public relations intellectuals today, I never heard him interview himself while talking to others. Everything he talked about often pointed to larger social issues, and all the while, he completely rejected any vestige of political and moral purity. His lack of rigidity coupled with his warmness and humor often threw people off, especially those on the left and right who seem to pride themselves on their often zombie-like stoicism. But, then again, Howard was not a child of privilege. He had a working-class sensibility, though hardly romanticized, and sympathy for the less privileged in society along with those whose voices had been kept out of the official narratives as well as a deeply felt commitment to solidarity, justice, dialogue and hope. And it was precisely this great sense of dignity and generosity in his politics and life that often moved people who shared his company privately or publicly. A few days before his death, he sent me an email commenting on something I had written for Truthout about zombie politics. (It astonishes me that this will have been the last correspondence. Even at my age, the encouragement and support of this man, this towering figure in my life, meant such a great deal.) His response captures something so enduring and moving about his spirit. He wrote:
"Henry, we are in a situation where mild rebuke, even critiques we consider 'radical' are not sufficient. (Frederick Douglass' speech on the Fourth of July in 1852, thunderously angry, comes close to what is needed). Raising the temperature of our language, our indignation, is what you are doing and what is needed. I recall that Sartre, close to death, was asked: 'What do you regret?' He answered: 'I wasn't radical enough.'"
I suspect that Howard would have said the same thing about himself. And maybe no one can ever be radical enough, but Howard came close to that ideal in his work, life and politics. Howard's death is especially poignant for me because I think the formative culture that produced intellectuals like him is gone. He leaves an enormous gap in the lives of many thousands of people who knew him and were touched by the reality of the embodied and deeply felt politics he offered to all of us. I will miss him, his emails, his work, his smile and his endearing presence. Of course, he would frown on such a sentiment, and with a smile would more than likely say, "do more than mourn, organize." Of course, he would be right, but maybe we can do both.
Note From the Author: The renown sociologist, Zygmunt Bauman, in response to my tribute to Howard Zinn responded by sending a piece he wrote on the recent anniversary of Camus's death. Zygmunt stated that he saw a parallel and connection between the lives of these two important public intellectuals.
Editor's Note: Howard Zinn and Henry A. Giroux not only shared a long personal friendship but also many professional and political connections. Henry A. Giroux recently joined the Truthout Board of Directors. Howard Zinn was a member of Truthout's Board of Advisors and his comments and suggestions about our work will be greatly missed by all of us. to/vh

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Howard Zinn was a one of a
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 11:20 — Bruce (not verified)Howard Zinn was a one of a kind leader. I never touched his hand, or heard him in person, but he nonetheless had a great impact on me as well as millions of others. Though he will never be replaced or forgotten, those that he inspired will carry on his work.
Howard Zinn, what a wonderful life and legacy you leave behind! Go with peace to the next stage and join your departed wife, friends, and family. After 87 years of fighting the tireless fight, you deserve a rest. Thank you for everything!
as a foreigner i consider
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 12:23 — stan van houcke (not verified)as a foreigner i consider howard zinn as the best the usa has to offer to mankind, an independent spirit in dark times.
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Howard Zinn's "A People's
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 12:36 — Anonymous (not verified)Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States was the beginning of my wake up in the world of sociology and history. I have a great respect for such a great mind and commitment to the truth. His life will not be forgotten.. May all our children read his words and remember as we go forward to discern all that we read and witness in the high tech world gail
I never met Howard Zinn face
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 13:49 — Keith Clemons (not verified)I never met Howard Zinn face to face, but we became pen pals after I read his People's History Of The United States in 2001. Initially, I sent long handwritten letters, before finally acquiring a home computer. He would try to answer some of my questions but as my correspondence was comprised of lengthy outpourings of my passionionate rage over the ongoing sad state of our nation, it necessitated his simply homing in on a few of my key points. What I so admired about him was his humility and humor. This was a man of towering intellect of whom if anyone could by rights be a snob, he certainly could - but was not. He asked me to address him simply as Howard, rather than Professor Zinn, as I had done out of respect. He made reference to me in one of his articles for The Progressive Magazine in 2008 as the "man in Florida who has been writing to me for years", humorously expressing his relief that I was now emailing in place of my former long, handwritten letters. He said one time that he felt sure that we would one day meet and I had hoped this would be.
We still have his words of wisdom and I know they will continue to guide more people to learn the lessons of history so that maybe we'll eventually stop repeating it's mistakes, as the adage goes. To anyone who has not read A People's History Of The United States, please take time out from mindless television programming, the wasteland of corporate owned radio, computer porn or silly games, or whatever else, and read this book. Real history is not dry or boring. Your grade school teacher may have been, but such descriptions do not apply to the beautiful soul and eloquence that was, and still is Howard Zinn. My tears that were delayed, fall freely now.
Howard Zinn was a good and
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 14:14 — mvb (not verified)Howard Zinn was a good and noble man. It's not easy to challenge the glorification of war culture and the mythologies and prejudices of the powerful, but he did so steadily, and with a light touch. I first experienced him, some 20 years ago, via a radio broadcast of one of his talks. I was blown away by his blend of humor and high moral concern. Among many things, he helped countless thousands of people, myself included, to understand the subjectivity of history -- a basic but critical notion. Standing behind Dr. Zinn in line at the grocery store a few years ago, I said to him, "Thank you for your work. It has meant a lot to me."
I must question Mr. Giroux's
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 14:29 — peggyforpeace (not verified)I must question Mr. Giroux's memory. It is not possible that he could have heard Dr. Zinn speaking out against the Vietnam War in 1977 as that war, thank god, was over and done with by that time. I am sure he heard him speaking out about some other absurdity being perpetrated by our government, but it couldn't have been Vietnam. (perhaps he meant 1967?!)
Giroux writes "Howard's
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 15:36 — deang (not verified)Giroux writes "Howard's death is especially poignant for me because I think the formative culture that produced intellectuals like him is gone."
I feel the same way, and felt the same way when Molly Ivins died a few years ago. Our culture today cannot produce people like that anymore.
I was a student at BU and
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 17:19 — RJ Garfunkel (not verified)I was a student at BU and graduated in 1967. I have been an active an involved progressive Democrat for over 40 years. I still run campaigns and have been giving money to good Democrats for decades. My wife worked for Cong Richard Ottinger for eight years and we support president Obama's agenda. I was in one of Zinn's classes and I knew and listened to his rantings for four years. I found him unrealistic, sophomoric and basically a clown. His People's History of the World, which was on television not long ago, was patently ridiculous. He even had a tough time justifying our effort in WWII. He is one of the reasons why the left doesn't win elections and allows right-wing nuts to have much greater influence in America then they deserve.
When I think of Zinn, I think of Raymond Mungo, the nutty editor of the BU News, and his far out opinions. I am no apologist for Bush and his cronies, but the Howard Zinns of this world are no bargain either.
Richard J. Garfunkel
Host of The Advocates
WVOX Radio- NY
www.wvox.com
http://advocates-wvox.com
COURAGEOUS defines Mr. Zinn
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 17:29 — Anonymous (not verified)COURAGEOUS defines Mr. Zinn in a nutshell...
today was a shitty day from the moment I got out of bed still grossed out by that public display we call a State of the Union address and then I heard Howard Zinn died and it just got shittier from there...
Mr. Garfunkel is missing the
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 17:44 — glensho (not verified)Mr. Garfunkel is missing the point of the message of Howard Zinn. Howard Zinn was not democrat or republican. He was an activist promoting the freedoms of citizens, universally. Revealing the sordid history of the U.S. does not necessarily a liberal make.
History is much perverted in the U.S., especially its own history. Zinn was dedicated to enlightening students and all others to that perversion and propaganda. We should celebrate those, no matter how "sophomoric" they may come across, as those who remind us of our rights and the need to maintain citizen participation in what is becoming more and more an illegitimate, and rather farcical, democratic republic.
No need to question Mr.
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 17:58 — Michael Bérubé (not verified)No need to question Mr. Giroux's memory, peggyforpeace -- the article makes it clear that Zinn wasn't speaking out on Vietnam in 1977: "He was standing on a box with a bullhorn in front of the Martin Luther King memorial giving a talk calling for opposition to Silber's attempt to undermine any democratic or progressive function of the university." Zinn's opposition to the odious Silber was, indeed, heroic, and many thanks to Henry for reminding us of that in this eloquent tribute.
Jewish Voice for Peace is
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 18:42 — Jade Queen (not verified)Jewish Voice for Peace is where I first learned of his death. His involvement with them indicates to me I would have found him to be great company, willing to speak his truth where it needed to be heard, even to me, who surely would have disagreed with him about some things. I expect his connection to JVP may be what will prompt some unhappy commentary. JVP is not exactly the group your usual congressperson will want to hear from. To paraphrase Obi-Wan, good souls grow even stronger when shed of skin and bones.
It was Mr. Zinn's book, "A
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 18:48 — Dave Waldon (not verified)It was Mr. Zinn's book, "A people's history of the United States" that really changed the course of my life. It inspired me to go back to school in my mid forties and to speak out against injustice wherever I witnessed it. That book should be required reading for all U.S. citizens. Truly, a remarkable man.
I cannot underestimate, or
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 19:18 — S. Wolf Britain (not verified)I cannot underestimate, or overestimate, the profound positive influence that Howard Zinn has had upon me; and I have been ruing the day for some time now that he would eventually pass away.
His book, Declarations of Independence, had the most profound effect on me, and his writings helped tremendously in waking me up to what is really going on and just how bad it truly is.
But I never really knew much of any true history of the U.S., except of course that Vietnam was completely wrong and was mass-murder of innocent peasants by the U.S. government and military of monumental proportions, until I read his writings, especially his shorter version of A People's History of the United States, "The Twentieth Century, A People's History".
Excerpts from Howard Zinn's latter book can be found on my "old", original website, at:
http://www.form-legal.com/comments-two.html#coming
Howard Zinn will be sorely missed by those who face the real state of affairs in this country and world, but thank God we have his voluminous and illuminating writings to remind us of the truth and of what we MUST stand up against.
What a voice of courage! In fact, he spoke out so prolifically and pointedly against the oligarchy and the establishment that I am actually quite surprised that he wasn't martyred, like one of his, mine and many others' mentor, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. But thank God again that he wasn't!
Thank you again, Howard, for putting your very life on the line for True Liberty, and for the Constitutional republic for which the U.S. is ONLY supposed to stand. Rest in peace, Dear True American Patriot.
The only parallel that I
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 19:52 — rjgarfunkel (not verified)The only parallel that I could find to Howard Zinn was of Ralph Nader, who gave us George W. Bush. I read all of the above comments, and I am constantly amazed over the years how the far left ignores reality and allows the right wing to win on the social wedge issues and then pick up all of the economic goodies. It is true I do not know whether Zinn was a Democrat or a Republican, or anything else, and there is nothing wrong working for "lost causes," and for sure I worked on enough of them from raising money for Charles Evers, to protesting Vietnam, to working for the rights of women. But if there was no draft the war would still be going on, and if there were a draft today, both wars we are still fighting would have never started or would have been long over. In my day in college, which straddled the Vietnam War, the protests basically were because of the draft, not the efficacy of the foreign policy. College kids wanted nothing to do with that fight, in the same way they signed protests supporting the American First and Charles Lindbergh before WWII.
One of the missing elements I noticed in the History Channel's production of The People's History was the mention of anti-Semitism. Maybe far left people like Zinn, who was Jewish, should be more concerned with that aspect of history. Personally I don't recall his perspectives on that issue, but his fellow travelers on the far left trash Israel and Jews all the time. I'm proud to have been a liberal Democrat and a liberal Jews, but Zinn's views on our country's history beg the issue of reality. Yes, we have many warts, but over time we have overcome most of them. The Indian Wars and the Japanese Incarceration should not condemn us to being a hypocritical phony republic.
I was never a fan of John Silber, and was gone before he came on board. But in the silly way we run higher education, he raised money and put BU on the map. If it was up to the Howard Zinn's of this world we still would be in the caves thinking that the Luddites were progressive.
Richard J. Garfunkel
Host of the Advocates
During the Vietnam War,
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 20:25 — Lanny Sinkin (not verified)During the Vietnam War, Howard Zinn was a clear voice pointing to truths that revealed the history leading up to Vietnam and the nature of the war itself.
In 1968, my college roommate, John Sisson, refused induction into the armed forces of the United States. He decided to use his prosecution to put the Vietnam War on trial.
Judge Wyzanski in Boston allowed us to put on a defense that the war was illegal and immoral.
Howard Zinn came to be a witness and provide his perspective on the illegality of the war. His presence and presentation took the defense to a whole new level.
After all the testimony, the Judge instructed the jury that they had only one question before them: Did John Sisson refuse induction into the armed forces of the United States. If he did, said the Judge, the jury must find him guilty.
We were shocked at the judge's instruction.
Predictably, the jury came back in short order to find John guilty.
The Judge then read his opinion finding the draft unconstitutional because it did not provide for selective conscientious objection to a particular war, such as Vietnam.
I believe that Howard Zinn played a significant role in providing Judge Wyzanski with a foundation for reaching the conclusion he reached.
May he rest in true peace.
Thank you, Henry Giroux. I
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 20:41 — Dr Susan Moore (not verified)Thank you, Henry Giroux. I didn't know that Howard Zinn had died. I'm older than you are, Henry: MAT Harvard '62. But your era was very important to me nonetheless--EVEN in Australia, starting in '66. The last teach-in attended by my Aussie husband and me was Staughton Lynd, whom I knew personally via University Settlement Camp in Beacon, NY, a half mile away from Pete Seeger, where we were counsellors. Pete's father-in-law, Mr Ota, was the gardener.
The educational battle continues. God speed. In one of my current ventures I'm writing Jewish Chronicles because so many Aus Catholics know zilch about the Jews. Please God that in interviews I always resemble the Howard Zinn you paint.
Thank you so much for such
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 20:58 — Salvador Sanchez (not verified)Thank you so much for such inspirational piece of writing. I will endeavor to honor this man by trying to make my classroom a breeding ground for activism that aims to lessen the inequities in our society.
Today in the high school
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 21:50 — Anonymous (not verified)Today in the high school where I teach English the conversation was all about Salinger's death. I mentioned that Howard Zinn had also passed, and was met with blank stares. Finally a voice chimed, yes he wrote "A People's History..." An awkward silence ensued, as if to have said anything else would have revealed something that would have made us all uncomfortable. Truth always unsettles.
Thank you for your touching
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 21:50 — Maggie (not verified)Thank you for your touching remembrance. There is more good than bad in the world. It is up to us in this moment-exact to empower the good, however. Howard Zinn certainly did that, and for that, he leaves an enduring legacy.
May he rest in peace, but may his contribution to this world be eternal...
In the high school English
Thu, 01/28/2010 - 21:57 — semanticus (not verified)In the high school English department where I teach today's conversation was all about Salinger's passing. When I mentioned that Howard Zinn had also passed I was ment with blank stares and an awkward silence. Then a voice chimed "Zinn...yes he wrote "A People's History...It seemed that was all he meant, the title of a book...
When Bush Sr left D.C. after
Fri, 01/29/2010 - 00:55 — Anonymous (not verified)When Bush Sr left D.C. after Clinton swearing in, and his trip to Andrews for his flight to Houston. I was thinking , this guy and his Oil gang would would push one of his sons to the Presidency. A few years later I was watching Zinn at book show and people were asking him questions. One asked him about George Jr. as a possible President...his answer was one word ....Dangerous. Exactly as I was feeling...
"His writings have changed
Fri, 01/29/2010 - 08:34 — rjgarfunkel (not verified)"His writings have changed the consciousness of a generation, and helped open new paths to understanding and its crucial meaning for our lives," Noam Chomsky, the left-wing activist and MIT professor, wrote of his friend. "When action has been called for, one could always be confident that he would be on the front lines, an example and trustworthy guide."
Again, not to belabor the point, the far left celebrates the life of Howard Zinn. I could expect nothing less than friendship and admiration from Noam Chomsky another self-hater, whose view of the world and life is as unrealistic as the late Howard Zinn's. I am reminded of Gandhi, who thought that the Holocaust and the death of European Jewry was a good model for martyrdom. When it came to their own people, both Chomsky and Zinn seemed a lot less generous. Their view is and was that there is no Western Civilization, and the advances made, no matter how difficult, didn't make us better. In other words, we were no better than the barbarians. The noble savage of the frontiers, spread all over the world, wasn't too noble and their sense of fair play and decency wasn't something to be envied. Obviously humankind is no bargain, what else is new? But the advance of civilization is fraught with trial and error. I am glad for Shelley, Keats, Shakespeare, Chopin, and all the others. Thank G-d for them and not Atilla!
With so-called liberals like Zinn we get disasters like Nixon, Reagan and Bush!
Richard J. Garfunkel
Who is this kook Richard
Fri, 01/29/2010 - 18:08 — Paul Douglas Foster (not verified)Who is this kook Richard Garfunkel, other than a good reason to not tune in to "The Advocates" (whatever that is) ?
Thank you Dr. Giroux for
Fri, 01/29/2010 - 19:02 — an educator in Providence (not verified)Thank you Dr. Giroux for such a wonderful memorial of Dr. Zinn. I'm continuously inspired by the works you have each produced over the years!
Richard Garfunkel, besides
Fri, 01/29/2010 - 22:17 — S. Wolf Britain (not verified)Richard Garfunkel, besides giving his last name and Art Garfunkel a (potentially) bad name (I hope to God, for Art's sake, that they aren't related!), is obviously a Jew who believes the lie that all Jews have to be Likudnik Zionists, the far "right-wing" extremist party of Israel, very much like our NeoCONS, really left-wing NeoLIBS and corporate-fascists, who run everything in the U.S., Israel and much of the world now, in order to be true Jews; otherwise, he and his other extremist fellow-travelers believe that all Jews who are not Likudnik Zionists are supposedly "self-hating Jews".
ABSOLUTE POPPYCOCK! According to their brainwashed "rational", MILLIONS of Jews and Israelis who are not "right-wing" (really left-wing) extremists, and who are against the apartheid, totalitarian, fascist, militarized police state actions of the Israeli government against the Palestinians, and against the parallel extremist policies and actions of the U.S. government, are all supposedly self-hating Jews. This could not be any further from the truth!
He and his hateful ilk have just as much right as anyone else to comment their disguised hatred here, but I too have just as much right to speak out against it, to defend the Palestinians against the oppression, repression, mass-imprisonment, and mass-murder being perpetrated against, and inflicted on, them by the Israeli government and "right-wing" (really left-wing) extremist Jews the world-over, and to speak out against the "right-wing" (really left-wing) corporate-fascist extremism that "right-wing" (really left-wing) extremist Jews support and promote in, and being carried out by, the U.S. government.
But you watch, I will probably now be falsely and fraudulently (because I most certainly and definitely am NOT!) attacked and labeled anti-Semitic by Richard Garfunkel and/or others' of his "far-right" (really far-left) extremist, corporate-fascist-supporting kind. Never mind that I support the right(s) of all Arabs and Muslims to peace and freedom, just as I support the right(s) of all Israelis and Jews to the same (without mass imprisonment and murder in order to supposedly bring it about)! And never mind that all Arabs are a Semitic people who I support, and that I am NOT against ANY group of Semitic people over ANY other group of Semitic people! Nor was or are Howard Zinn, Noam Chomsky and many others!
Naturally, these brainwashed "right-wing" (really left-wing) fascist Jewish extremists like Richard Garfunkel ignore, defend and/or excuse the disproportionate, four to five times higher, aggression of the Israeli government against the Palestinians compared to the extremely limited aggression of the Palestinians against Israel; as well as ignore and/or deny the Palestinians LEGAL right(s) to defend themselves from the COMPLETELY ILLEGAL aggression being carried out against them by Israel, just as ALL people have the right(s) fully reflected in international law(s) to defend themselves from all such aggression against them!
Therefore, I will NOT sit idly by while defenders and promoters of racism, hatred, fascism, mass imprisonment and murder, oppression, repression, and false and fraudulent denigration and intentional mis-labeling of all those who are against ALL such beliefs, attitudes and practices appear to get away with such true anti-Semitism, racism, hatred and evil without objection, or at least with very little objection. For these true self-hating Jewish Likudnik Zionist extremists MUST NOT be allowed to continue to mis-represent billions of world citizens who are for nothing but Peace and "...Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness..." for ALL people worldwide, just because they are against the foregoing true anti-Semitism, racism, hatred and evil of the Israeli government and millions of hateful Likudnik Zionist extremists all over the planet.
[Let me explain something: Fascism has historically been a left-wing movement and/or ideology, or at least it used to be. Now it is being called "right-wing". But, needless to say, whether it is right-wing or left-wing, it is a hateful extremism that ALL OF US have a God-given and/or civil DUTY to stand up against, in ALL of its forms and/or in whichever extreme of the spectrum it (mis-)represents itself to be!]
With the greatness of
Sat, 01/30/2010 - 01:42 — Zisska (not verified)With the greatness of sadness all humanitarian activist will miss his knowledge and words of truth. Yes a wonderful spirit has passed but he shall never be forgotten nor his great Lectures.
Professor Zinn, was forced by propaganda as a very innocent young man and like many loyal Americans, have gone into a war that one never forgot. He as many others have witnessed with there own eyes the truth of human suffering while the propagandist walk with power and great wealth.
The cruelty of those in power who worship authoritarian behavior to profit and murder the innocent on both sides { in the end the mental/physical suffering imprisoned in the innocent humans until death do they part!}.
Who to blame?
"When our elite profiteering hate driven self severing {Senate and Congress} mixed religion and politics together for power, greed and votes "terrorism" was born". ...
~~~Zissa Ramani
Btw, I should have also said
Sat, 01/30/2010 - 01:42 — S. Wolf Britain (not verified)Btw, I should have also said above that I realize that the Kadima party, another very powerful party in Israel like the Likud party, which split off from the Likud party, are also extremist Zionists, claiming to be "centrist" much like most of members of the U.S. Democratic Party have proven themselves to be; but, whether they are Likud or Kadima Zionists, they are virulent anti-Semites (since they want to exterminate all Arabs, Palestinians and/or Muslims, or as many of them as they can, through "ethnic cleansing", though they claim otherwise), and racist, fascist oppressors and repressors who need the truth about them spoken of as often, and in as many places, as possible. They are all mass-criminals who have far too much sway and control on this earth. And, if they had their way, they would have EVERYONE who is not Jewish, as well as all non-Zionist Jews, wiped off the face of the globe.
Please do not (intentionally?) misunderstand and/or misinterpret me. I am NOT against the Jews as a whole WHATSOEVER, but against all Likud/Kadima extremist Zionists, in addition to all NeoCONS, NeoLIBS, corporate-fascists, and any and all other "extremists" who are not TRULY defending themselves against overwhelming odds like the Palestinians are doing, and are not TRULY for peace and freedom for ALL people of the planet, for all of the reasons that I have more than clearly delineated above.
I also know that the extremist Likud/Kadima Zionists claim that most Arabs allegedly want to "drive them into the sea", etc., that they themselves are supposedly defending themselves against overwhelming odds, and that they want eventual peace with the Palestinians, etc. But these lies are all part of one of the worst conglomeration of falsehoods, and ultimate frauds, being perpetrated on the world, fooling far too many people into supporting their mass-murderous, genocidal fascist racism and extremism for way too long.
We traditional Americans all
Sat, 01/30/2010 - 02:20 — Zisska (not verified)We traditional Americans all over the United States hear your cries and are standing up with you now!
S. Wolf, I'm afraid you are
Sat, 01/30/2010 - 09:23 — Anonymous (not verified)S. Wolf, I'm afraid you are railing against a mind-set that is unfortunately too prevalent in the U.S. and Western Capitalistic governments.
Obviously Zinn is worth reading since his work is denigrated by self-loving jews (as opposed to self- hating ones) who support the tactics of the Irraeli government.
I am sorry for your loss and
Sat, 01/30/2010 - 11:01 — Anonymous (not verified)I am sorry for your loss and our own.
The world has lost a voice
Sat, 01/30/2010 - 23:30 — John Scharff (not verified)The world has lost a voice of reason and rebuke of newspeak.
The Luddites were
Sun, 01/31/2010 - 16:37 — radline9 (not verified)The Luddites were progressive. A lot of workers wish we could go back to the days of guilds and unions.
I just found out that Zinn
Sun, 01/31/2010 - 21:49 — S. Wolf Britain (not verified)I just found out that Zinn believed in doing away with national borders, which I hadn't been aware of before. As a result, I now realize I was VERY wrong to praise him; because that is treason against the Supreme Law of the Land, the U.S. Constitution.
Yes, he had MANY things right, but that betrayal of this country is too big to ignore or let him slide for. He, like Noam Chomsky, also traitorously believed that it supposedly wasn't important who the real perpetra(i)tors (sic) of 9-11 were. I was letting him slide for that one, but I now realize I was wrong about that also.
Being against national borders means he was also for globalization, which he said should not be corporate, but with the advent of globalization it will be unavoidable that it will be corporate, and thus a fascist enslavement of the entire world.
Therefore, Zinn was extremely shortsighted where it most matters today; and, again, because of his treasonous belief in violating the national sovereignty of the United States embodied in the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land, that makes him a traitor, and NOT the "True American Patriot" that I very wrongly called him before.
I just noticed the apology
Tue, 02/02/2010 - 08:01 — Anonymous rjgarfunkel (not verified)I just noticed the apology in the above remarks by Mr. Britain. Oh, he started to read more about Professor Zinn. His rantings against Israel and political elements in that free country reflect his incredible anti-Semitic views.
By the way, for the record, I am not a right-wing Likudnik, and have supported the Jewish Labor Party for many years, and for sure I am not a self-hating Jew, I have been a dues paying member of Reform and Reconstructionist Congregations for 35 years. I am not in lock-step with any right-wing faction in Israel or here in America. I am a card-carrying middle of the road Democrat, who is if anything an unreconstructed New Dealer. I lecture on FDR, and Eleanor Roosevelt, am a member of the Roosevelt Institute and have been contributing to Democratic causes and running Democratic campaigns, on and off, for 40 years. As to being a Jew, I am proud every day. As to my remarks, I never said that any Jew who doesn't march to the tune of Likud or any other right-wing group in Israel or America is a self-hating Jew. Don't put words in my mouth. As to Chomsky and others, their actions and words are well-documented and they stand on their own. As to Howard Zinn, unlike almost all of you out there I saw him first hand, and was turned off by him 45 years ago. I have that right. When I watched his program on the History Channel, I found it incomplete and slanted. Did he make points that were true? Yes! Were there abuses by Americans against ; Indians, foreigners, Jews, African-Americans and others? Yes! Was there prejudice against religious groups? Yes! Was there economic imperialism? Yes! The whole world has been guilty of all these anti-isms for countless centuries. Our history has not been pretty. What else is new? But rationalizing extremist views that Howard Zinn often promoted cannot be justified by abuses on the right. Father Coughlin and other extremists, in my view, were worse. So to answer Mr. Britain, who finally awoke from his intellectual slumber, don't call me a right-winger. I have the intellectual freedom to criticize an individual who promoted, from my perspective, and unrealistic view of America and its place in history. The far left-wing in this country knows where it stands, and many of these same folk supported the Soviet Union up and until the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in late 1939, and then rationalized the agreement with Hitler. The far left has much to answer for in many areas. Again, to recognize their history does make me, or any one else, a right-winger.
By the way, the Luddites smashed all the sewing looms in Britain, they were not progressive!
Richard J. Garfunkel
See, what did I tell you? I
Wed, 02/03/2010 - 00:22 — S. Wolf Britain (not verified)See, what did I tell you? I rest my case.
What is your confused point?
Wed, 02/03/2010 - 23:53 — rjgarfunkel (not verified)What is your confused point? Don't rest your case, just rest in peace!
The Wolf says he just doesn't like these type of Jews!
"Please do not (intentionally?) misunderstand and/or misinterpret me. I am NOT against the Jews as a whole WHATSOEVER, but against all Likud/Kadima extremist Zionists, in addition to all NeoCONS, NeoLIBS, corporate-fascists, and any and all other "extremists" who are not TRULY defending themselves against overwhelming odds like the Palestinians are doing, and are not TRULY for peace and freedom for ALL people of the planet, for all of the reasons that I have more than clearly delineated above."
Give me a break! You're not misunderstood- your words tell the truth. You are for Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah and all the so-called peace-loving Palestinians. So why don't these folk make peace? You mean 10,000 rockets from Gaza was peace-loving?
With friends like you, any Jew should beware!
Richard J. Garfunkel
My so-called "confused
Thu, 02/04/2010 - 01:59 — S. Wolf Britain (not verified)My so-called "confused point" is that I said you would probably slander me and falsely and fraudulently call me "anti-Semitic"; and, sure enough, you did. THAT'S why I rested my case.
The end of your first paragraph there sounds line you are wishing me dead. Thus, that is a veiled death threat. I pray you are fully held accountable for that, terrorist. That is what you Zionist Jews are, true terrorists, like the apartheid government of South Africa was, and all fascist governments were and are, also.
Again, you have twisted my words around. I said right in that comment that I am AGAINST all extremism; which, of course, would include the extremism of Hamas, Hezbolah, etc. But, naturally, you cho(o)se to forget or ignore what I said there, and to misrepresent me because it's much more convenient for you.
You can't be reasoned with because you're a completely and extremely deceived "loon". That's not slander, because you ARE definitely a loon. Like I alluded to someone in another thread, I will not go 'round and 'round with you. It's like reasoning with the devil. It cannot be done, and it's a waste of time and energy.
With Jew(s) like you, all Jews should beware!
Correction: With (a) Jew(s)
Thu, 02/04/2010 - 14:08 — S. Wolf Britain (not verified)Correction: With (a) Jew(s) like you, all Jews should beware!
Zinn always insisted on
Thu, 02/04/2010 - 16:09 — Frances in California (not verified)Zinn always insisted on truth; even difficult truth. He helped Daniel Ellsberg safeguard the Pentagon Papers when that truth-teller was getting the "Truth Out".
I suggest all of the readers
Thu, 02/04/2010 - 16:44 — rjgarfunkel (not verified)I suggest all of the readers of this blog check out this character's website http://wolfbritain.com. It will really give you an insight and a chill to who this person really is.
Thank you Richard for the
Fri, 02/05/2010 - 00:35 — S. Wolf Britain (not verified)Thank you Richard for the "back-door" endorsement. I appreciate it very much and am grateful. Yes, please go check out my blog; as, on it, you will find nothing but TRUTH, and/or reference to nothing but truth. But it's actually very interesting that Richard would refer people to it, because I don't go into the Israeli and/or Jewish question at all on it, although I do link to a few Palestinian-supporting websites of course. Why do I say of course? Because most of the Palestinians ARE nothing but innocent people who want nothing but peace, and they are getting shafted to an extent that no truly-humanitarian people can deny.
And, if my supporting on my blog that 9/11 had to have been an inside job is what he claims is so "chill(ing)", go look at the "tons" of evidence and the hundreds if not thousands of experts, and over twenty professional organizations, that prove it had to have been an inside job carried out by factions in the U.S. government. In addition, consider the fact that over one third of, that's at least 100 million, Americans believe it was an inside job; and the fact that most New Yorkers, both "New York City-ites" and state-wide, believe the government was involved in it and is covering it up. There has even been a NYC ballot initiative seeking a new, truly impartial, and thorough investigation of 9/11, that really gets to the bottom of who is responsible all the way to the top; because most people with any true knowledge of it, and the facts association with it, know that at-minimum the 9/11 Commission was nothing but a huge cover-up.
Most of you, like Richard, know little or nothing about the true facts of 9/11; so, naturally, you blindly and ignorantly assume that anyone who claims it was an inside job is supposedly "chilling", etc.; when, in actuality, those who are standing up for the real truth regarding 9/11, like myself, are the True American Patriots in and of the matter, and those who falsely and fraudulently call them "traitors", etc., ignore the evidence, and blindly believe the government's "official", "fairy-tale" side of the story on the matter, are the real traitors. Even the Founders of the U.S. told us to question everything the government does, and to not trust government.
Btw, traitor Richard J.
Fri, 02/05/2010 - 01:35 — S. Wolf Britain (not verified)Btw, traitor Richard J. Garfunkel, you claim to be a liberal, and my blog is full of what would be considered liberal banners and buttons linking to highly liberal websites; plus, millions of the Americans who believe 9/11 was an inside job are liberals; in fact, I don't think I have a single link to a "right-wing" website on my entire blog; so your objections to my website make little or no sense.
Sorely missed. I Wonder
Tue, 02/09/2010 - 19:39 — Anonymous (not verified)Sorely missed.
I Wonder whether to ignore the depressing school-yard litany above this comment, or to acknowledge it...
The world feels a little smaller and colder with you Dr Zinn.
I felt that the moment I heard of your passing, and upon reading the disintegration of these comments- in less than a month- its a feeling I can't shake.
THANK YOU HOWARD ZINN- And thank you Henry, for the great article.
Love, Hope, and Respect.
Yah, "thank you Howard Zinn"
Wed, 02/10/2010 - 16:26 — S. Wolf Britain (not verified)Yah, "thank you Howard Zinn" for wanting to do away with national sovereignty and U.S. borders in violation of the Constitution, making him a traitor! Praising traitors, that's what this country has come to. Next you'll be bowing down to the cops and/or military as they take away completely innocent people like myself for doing nothing but standing up for the Constitution, defending national sovereignty, and standing up against doing away with our borders and bringing the U.S. under one-world government and the "New World Order", with no "freedom(s)" except for those who disgustingly sell their souls to the devil, literally!
Clearly, most "Americans" don't even know the Constitution anymore; and, thus, they very stupidly call those defending it supposedly "guilty" of so-called "depressing school-yard litany". What is really depressing is ignorant "Americans" like yourself who "know not what they're doing" as they are complicit in selling the independence of this country into global enslavement, while all the time defending it and in a truly "school-yard" fashion attacking and seeking to discredit those who are doing nothing but fulfilling the Constitutional DUTY that you traitorous defenders of destroying this country do not fulfill at all. With "Americans" like you and Howard Zinn, God help us all!