Justice Department Clears Torture Memo Authors John Yoo, Jay Bybee of Misconduct

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Justice Department Clears Torture Memo Authors John Yoo, Jay Bybee of Misconduct
Department of Justice watchdog report clears John Yoo of misconduct. (Photo: John Yoo; Edited: Jared Rodriguez / t r u t h o u t)

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A long-awaited Department of Justice watchdog report that probed whether John Yoo and his former boss Jay Bybee violated professional standards when they provided the Bush White House with legal advice on torture has cleared both men of misconduct, according to Newsweek, citing unnamed sources who have seen the document.

An earlier version of the report was prepared by H, Marshall Jarrett, head of the Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR), and completed in December 2008. It concluded that Yoo, a Berkeley law professor, and Bybee, now a federal appeals court judge on the 9th Circuit, violated professional standards when they drafted an August 2002 legal opinion that authorized CIA officers to use brutal methods when interrogating suspected terrorist detainees and recommeded a referral to their state bar associations for possible sanctions, which could have resulted in their law licenses being revoked.

But as I reported last April, Obama's Justice Department appointees began to  water down those previous conclusions after OPR received responses on the report's conclusions from Yoo and Bybee, who both worked in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC).

Shortly after taking charge of the Justice Department, Attorney General Eric Holder assigned Mary Patrice Brown, a veteran DC prosecutor and the new head of OPR, the task of reviewing the final report. Brown spent months scrutinizing the lengthy document and made revisions. Her conclusions were then sent to a senior prosecutor at the DOJ for a final review.

The person tasked with reviewing the final version is David Margolis, the 34-year career prosecutor at the DOJ. It was Margolis who softened OPR's earlier finding of professional misconduct and instead determined that Yoo and Bybee "showed poor judgment" when they drafted an August 1, 2002 legal opinion authorizing the CIA to employ methods such as waterboarding against detainees during interrogations, according to Newsweek. 

That means neither Yoo nor Bybee will be referred to state bar associations where they could have faced disciplinary action since poor judgment does not constitute professional misconduct, according to OPR's post-investigation procedures. For Bybee, such a referral could have also led to an impeachment inquiry before Congress.

It's unknown why Margolis downgraded the report's initial findings. Newsweek reported that he did so without any input from Holder, who has to accept the conclusions and recommendations contained in the document.

Yoo and Bybee, however, are still under scrutiny. Legal advocacy groups have filed complaints against them, and others who worked on the Bush administration's so-called "enhanced interrogation" program, with state bar associations in hopes that their law licenses will be revoked.

When the report is finally released and if its conclusions match Newsweek's story, particularly the key finding that Yoo and Bybee did not violate professional standards and won't face disciplinary action, the Obama administration will face a swift backlash from those who say the president and his appointees have gone above and beyond to cover-up war crimes committed by the Bush administration.

Newsweek noted that the OPR  report is "sharply critical" of the "legal reasoning used to justify waterboarding" and other methods of torture CIA interrogators used against detainees after 9/11, a critical conclusion that raises questions about the Obama Justice Department's reasons for not holding Yoo and Bybee accountable. 

Moreover, the report, which is still under a declassification review "will provide many new details about how waterboarding was adopted and the role that top White House officials played in the process, say two sources who have read the report but asked for anonymity to describe a sensitive document," Newsweek reported. 

Two of the most controversial sections of the 2002 memo—including one contending that the president, as commander in chief, can override a federal law banning torture—were not in the original draft of the memo, say the sources. But when Michael Chertoff, then-chief of Justice’s criminal division, refused the CIA’s request for a blanket pledge not to prosecute its officers for torture, Yoo met at the White House with David Addington, Dick Cheney’s chief counsel, and then–White House counsel Alberto Gonzales. After that, Yoo inserted a section about the commander in chief’s wartime powers and another saying that agency officers accused of torturing Qaeda suspects could claim they were acting in “self-defense” to prevent future terror attacks, the sources say. Both legal claims have long since been rejected by Justice officials as overly broad and unsupported by legal precedent.

Four-Year-Long Investigation

The OPR probe was launched in mid-2004 after a meeting in which Jack Goldsmith, then head of the OLC, got into a tense debate with White House lawyers, including Vice President Dick Cheney’s legal counsel David Addington.

That back-and-forth over the OLC’s judgments regarding George W. Bush’s powers rest at the heart of the Bush administration’s defense of its “enhanced interrogation” techniques that have been widely denounced as torture, such as waterboarding which subjects a person to the panicked gag reflex of drowning and which was used on at least three “high-value” detainees.

Bush officials insist that they were acting under the guidance of the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, which advises Presidents on the scope of their constitutional powers. For the OPR report to conclude that Yoo, Bybee and Bradbury violated their professional duties as lawyers and, in effect, gave Bush pre-cooked legal opinions to do what he already wanted to do would have shattered that line of defense.

Goldsmith ended up withdrawing some of the Yoo-Bybee opinions because he felt they were “legally flawed” and “sloppily reasoned.”

He resigned shortly thereafter and was subsequently replaced on an acting basis by Bradbury, who restored some of the controversial Yoo-Bybee opinions in May 2005, again granting Bush broad powers to inflict painful interrogations on detainees. Bradbury was also a subject of OPR's probe. 

Yoo Failed to Cite Legal Precedent

As Truthout reported last week, an original draft of the report determined that professional misconduct was warranted because Yoo, when writing the August 2002 torture memo, failed to cite the key precedent relating to a president's war powers, Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, a 1952 Supreme Court case that addressed President Harry Truman's order to seize steel mills that had been shut down in a labor dispute during the Korean War, according to DOJ officials who were knowledgeable about the contents of the draft version.

Truman said the strike threatened national defense and thus justified his actions under his Article II powers in the Constitution.

But the Supreme Court overturned Truman's order, saying, "the President's power, if any, to issue the order must stem either from an act of Congress or from the Constitution itself." Since Congress hadn't delegated such authority to Truman, the Supreme Court ruled that Truman's actions were unconstitutional, with an influential concurring opinion written by Justice Robert Jackson.

Yoo's memoranda concluded that the laws governing torture violated Bush's commander-in-chief powers under the Constitution because it prevented him "from gaining the intelligence he believes necessary to prevent attacks upon the United States."

Yoo's lengthy response to the OPR expanded upon a defense he first cited in his 2006 book, "War by Other Means," in explaining why he didn't cite Youngstown.

Yoo wrote: "we didn't cite [Justice Robert] Jackson's individual views in Youngstown because earlier OLC opinions, reaching across several administrations, had concluded that it had no application to the president's conduct of foreign affairs and national security.

"Youngstown reached the outcome it did because the Constitution clearly gives Congress, not the President, the exclusive power to make law concerning labor disputes. It does not address the scope of Commander-in-Chief power involving military strategy or intelligence tactics in war ...

"Far from inventing some novel interpretation of the Constitution, [Office of Legal Counsel] was really doing little more than following in the footsteps of the Clinton Justice Department and all prior Justice Departments."

It now appears that Yoo made a convincing argument to OPR in defending his reasons for not citing the landmark ruling and that likely impacted Margolis's decision to water down earlier conclusions that found Yoo and Bybee in violation of professional standards.

A July 10, 2009, report by the inspectors general of the CIA, National Security Agency, DOJ and Defense Department into the Bush administration's warrantless wiretapping program, which were based on legal opinions written by Yoo, previously took Yoo to task for failing to cite Youngstown.

Yoo "omitted any discussion of Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, a leading case on the distribution of government powers between the Executive and Legislative Branches," the report said.

"Justice [Robert] Jackson's analysis of President Truman's Article II Commander-in-Chief authority during wartime in the Youngstown case was an important factor in OLC's subsequent reevaluation of Yoo's opinions," the report said.

Additionally, the early draft of the OPR report also concluded, legal sources said, that Yoo misinterpreted an obscure 2000 health benefits statute and wrongly applied it to August 2002 and March 2003 interrogation opinions he wrote.

Again, expanding upon a defense that first appeared in his book, Yoo placed some of the responsibility on Congress for forcing him to rely upon the statute to narrow the definition of torture in a way that permitted techniques such as waterboarding.

In passing an anti-torture law, Congress only prohibited "severe physical or mental pain or suffering," Yoo wrote. "The ban on torture does not prohibit any pain or suffering whether physical or mental, only severe acts. Congress did not define severe ... OLC interpreted 'severe' as a level of pain 'equivalent in intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as death, organ failure, or serious impairment of body functions.

"OLC's first 2002 definition did not make up this definition out of thin air. It applied a standard technique used to interpret ambiguous phrases in law. When Congress does not define its terms, courts commonly look in the United States Code for the use of similar language. The only other place where similar words appear is in a law defining health benefits for emergency medical conditions, which are defined as severe symptoms, including 'severe pain' where an individual's health is placed 'in serious jeopardy,' 'serious impairment to bodily functions,' or 'serious dysfunction of any bodily organ or part.'"

In his book, "The Terror Presidency," Goldsmith wrote that "the health benefits statute's use of 'severe pain' had no relationship whatsoever to the torture statute. And even if it did, the health benefit statute did not define 'severe pain.' Rather it used the term 'severe pain' as a sign of an emergency medical condition that, if not treated, might cause organ failure and the like.... OLC's clumsily definitional arbitrage didn't seem even in the ballpark."

Bush Aides Secured Changes

Last March, the Justice Department revealed that the OPR report underwent revisions after the initial draft was rejected by former Attorney General Michael Mukasey and his deputy, Mark Filip, both of who insisted that Yoo, Bybee and Bradbury be given an opportunity to respond to its conclusions.

“Attorney General Mukasey, Deputy Attorney General Filip and OLC provided comments [after the first draft was completed in December], and OPR revised the draft report to the extent it deemed appropriate based on those comments,” said acting Assistant Attorney General Faith Burton in a March 25, 2009 letter to Sens. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-Rhode Island) and Richard Durbin (D-Illinois), members of the Senate Judiciary Committee who have been closely tracking the OPR probe.

Burton also said at the time that the final OPR would likely undergo more revisions based on responses from the former OLC lawyers. Several months later, Durbin and Whitehouse received a letter from Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich who disclosed the post investigation process.

Several months later, Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich wrote to the senators and noted that if the appeals filed by Yoo, Bybee and Bradbury resulted in a rejection of OPR’s findings by the "career official" reviewing the document then no such referral would occur.

"Department policy usually requires referral of OPR's misconduct findings to the subject's state bar disciplinary authority, but if the appeal resulted in a rejection of OPR's misconduct findings, then no referral was made," said Weich’s May 4, 2009 letter to Durbin and Whitehouse. "This process afforded former employees roughly the same opportunity to contest OPR's findings that current employees were afforded through the disciplinary process."

Weich's letter to Durbin and Whitehouse was sent in response to queries by the senators last March about revelations that Bradbury oversaw OLC's review of the report in late 2008, despite the fact that he was a subject of OPR's investigation and was also acting head of OLC at the time.

Three months before Bush exited the White House, Bradbury, in a "memorandum for the files," renounced several legal opinions drafted by Yoo and Bybee.

Bradbury attempted to justify or forgive Yoo's controversial opinion by explaining that it was "the product of an extraordinary period in the history of the Nation: the immediate aftermath of the attacks of 9/11."

Bradbury wrote another memo five days before Bush left office last January, in which he once again repudiated Yoo's legal opinions. It would appear that this memo was in response to the OPR report. Bradbury said in the Jan. 15 memo that the flawed theories by Yoo in no way should be interpreted to mean that Justice Department lawyers did not "satisfy" professional standards.

Rather, Bradbury wrote, "In the wake of the atrocities of 9/11, when policy makers, fearing that additional catastrophic terrorist attacks were imminent, strived to employ all lawful means to protect the Nation."

Durbin and Whitehouse said they believed Bradbury’s "memorandum for the files" made it a "conflict-of-interest" for him to participate in the formal review process.

But Weich said, "Because Mr. Bradbury's participation in that process was transparent, OPR advised that it can evaluate the OLC response with the knowledge of Mr. Bradbury's participation just as it would evaluate a response from anyone whose actions were within the scope of OPR's investigation.

"Therefore, OPR does not believe that Mr. Bradbury's participation in the OLC response was improper," Weich said

Weich added that the initial draft of the report was also shared with the CIA for a "classification review," and the agency, having reviewed the findings, "requested an opportunity to provide substantive comment on the report."

Durbin and Whitehouse, in a statement last May, said they "will be interested in the scope of the ‘substantive comment' the CIA is providing, and the reasons why an outside agency would have such comment on an internal disciplinary matter."

Report Long Overdue

Holder testified before Congress last year that the OPR report was expected be released by the end of November. In interviews over the past month, as Truthout previously reported, two senior aides to Democratic lawmakers claimed the report was being held up in lieu of the passage of a health care bill. 

But Tracy Schmaler, a DOJ spokeswoman, disputed the allegations.

"That is absolutely untrue," Schmaler said. "One thing has nothing to do with another."

Schmaler said the review "process is ongoing and we hope to have [the report] complete and released soon."

Two DOJ officials familiar with details of the report said a delay in releasing it in the time frame Holder had promised was due, in part, to the fact that Margolis was hospitalized in December for pneumonia.

In his testimony last November, Holder said the report had not been released sooner due to "the amount of time we gave to the lawyers who represented the people who are the subject of the report an opportunity to respond. And then [OPR] had to react to those responses."

In 2008, Holder, who was a featured speaker at the American Constitution Society’s annual convention, told a packed crowd that the “American people are owe[d] a reckoning” as a result of the “abusive” and “unlawful” policies of the Bush administration.

But if the initial reports about the OPR report's conclusions are accurate, that day will likely never come.

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Further disgusting evidence

Further disgusting evidence that
Obama is maybe barely better than Bush,
hell, maybe he's worse 'cause instead of
being a blatant bullshitter, he's a closet bullshitter! John Yoo is, was, and remains
a war criminal.



Things were better in my

Things were better in my day. Nixon had to resign (or be impeached) and his cohorts went to jail. There was some actual justice in this country then. Things are far worse now and quickly deteriorating.



Bush put a lot of

Bush put a lot of evangelical types into the Justice Department. (No joke, this is actually what he did) You can't get rid of these militant deletantes either. It's 'Leviticus' for these guys, it always is before blood letting and genocide.

When will our misunderstanding of the supposed role of the "Justice Department" regain some clarity?
As if we still believe captive agencies will ever do the right thing. They will obediently support any malignancy from the ruler class. It is time to turn our backs on a Government that has totally lost it's way.



And yoo can see da Debil in

And yoo can see da Debil in 'is eyes!



The Constitution:

The Constitution: irrelevant. International laws of war that are also laws of the US according to US law: quaint, obsolete. The Justice Department has become the Justification Department, creating excuses for lawlessness rather than enforcing justice.
The government is a creation of the Constitution, if the Constitution is irrelevant then the government has no basis for any claim to authority, if the laws of the US mean nothing to it then the laws are null and void for all.
Our government is an organized crime syndicate, far worse and more dangerous than any that ever existed in recorded history. No matter what the future brings we are in bad times and things will get far worse before they get better, and they will not start to get better until the vast majority of the American people wake up and see the chains they are bound in, and see the vast evil being done in their name, and demand change. Until they're willing to give up American Idol, and give up the illusion that they are 'safe' while the predators in Washington run rampant, nothing will change.



Last week:

Last week: Corporations=People
+This week: Jon Yoo and Jay Bybee=Innocent
_________________________
Result: Justice Department=Toilet Paper

Or, in plain commercial language, The Justice Department is Charmin'.



"Poor judgment does not

"Poor judgment does not constitute professional misconduct" according to OPR. One would think "poor judgment" that led to torture and in some cases death should carry some type of penalty. One would think.



Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Yoo,

Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Yoo, etc. are not only above the law, they are the law. They showed that they can attack other nations with impunity, arrest people and detain them indefinitely, torture, occupy countries, and restrict your freedoms in the U.S. based on some excuse of fighting "terrorism". Is Obama part of the problem.. i.e. supporting the MICC (using the original draft version of Ike) or will he direct people to do the right thing and provide some justice?



Obama is just as lawless as

Obama is just as lawless as Bush. He may not have committed as many war crimes, he may not have violated the Constitution nearly as much, and he may not be breaking as many federal laws, now that Congress has changed the laws. But in my opinion, protecting people who commit such horrible crimes is almost as bad as committing the crimes themselves. This is because it encourages people to commit them again in the future. They will know that they won't be punished for anything, as long as they claim they were doing it for "national security". I agree with Obama on many things, but this is one thing where I completely disagree with him. And it is so important that it outweighs many of the good things about Obama. I hope someone good like Kucinich runs against Obama in the primaries so that I'll have a reason to vote.



Curt is absolutely right to

Curt is absolutely right to point out to us that the behavior of DOJ is woefully off-base when it presumes that what are actionable offenses against international law can simply be watered down by DOJ functionaries. In a just world, Israel and Hamas would now be subject to international action for failing to do what they must in response to the Goldstone decision. Similarly the U.S.-- having failed to carry out a credible internal investigation and proceed to judge the principals in the case-- would be subject to international investigation.



Unfortunately, I have to

Unfortunately, I have to agree with Curt (01/30/2010 @ 16:32) and Anonymous (@ 14:58). The moles left over from the Bush/Cheney debacle, spread all over what used to be the Federal government, are devoted to one thing: finalizing the efforts of Cheney-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz-Perls-Feith, et al, and the PNAC psychopaths to finally establish, in what used to be the United States, their vision of a fascist police state, devoted to imperialism, corporatism/militarism and rule-the-world-by-fear totalitarianism.



Curt at 16:32 -- Well said

Curt at 16:32 -- Well said and truly said. The "crime syndicate" definition is absolutely correct. Thank you.



Based on everything we've

Based on everything we've seen so far, Obama will protect BushCo from any legal prosecution if at all possible. I suppose he wants to protect the President's prerogative to torture, secretly spy on Americans, declare martial law at the drop of a hat, etc. Poor judgement seems more like a charge made to intern positions, or positions where the government isn't representing 300 million
Americans around the world with military force, not a key legal advisory position to the POTUS. Here is another example of the government acting on it's own with little support of the people, yet acting in those people's names nonetheless. It's disgraceful that Americans can no longer make a difference in such matters, the MIC does what it wants: supporting Israel regardless of what they do, invading and killing civilians in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq with TOTAL IMPUNITY.



Very bad news. After WWII,

Very bad news. After WWII, in recognition of the fact that lawyers and judges had been crucial to the destruction of the German legal system, we put some of the bad actors on trial. We seem to have forgotten that lesson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judges%27_Trial



Bye bye, DOJ-credibility!

Bye bye, DOJ-credibility! Hello, black hole!



Black is white. White is

Black is white. White is black. Good is bad, and bad is good. It's 1984 in the land of the free. Will it be a double feature with Animal Farm, or not? That's the only question that remains.



They don't call em the

They don't call em the JUST_U.S. Bunch for nothing!

T.H.U.G.S.

(((3)))



You cannot vote fascism out

You cannot vote fascism out of power. At the point that people get over the notion that "daddy" is going to do it for them, then and only then will they have a shot at regaining control over their own lives and government.

But it is very likely too late. The masses who prefer fascism are too many. Those for freedom too few . . . unless the Black brothers, the workers, the women, the poor come together. It's the only way, people. No "daddy" is going to do it for you. Come together or die enslaved.



Who Cares for God-sakes!!

Who Cares for God-sakes!! Why do we bring up "war crime" cases from the Bush Adminstration NOW??! It's a little to late, it'll just fall on deaf ears!! How come we couldn't expose this during the adminstration?, so that it would make an impact, hashing this up now wouldn't do shit and it's to their advantage, and they know it!! I can't beleive I'm saying this but whoever is trying to expose this, please take a lesson from the Republicans!! They not only exposed Acorn, with it's tax-fraud, but they sensationalized it; demonized it on national news. That's how you do it!! Jeez, damn Liberals can't do shrewd right!!!



And the Geneva Conventions,

And the Geneva Conventions, which are the law of the US since they're duly ratified treaties, have no relevance?

The Obama DOJ seems to be saying, oh well, once it's done we have to find a way it's ok. Why?

I don't see any reason to smooth over the misdeeds & constitutional violations of the Bush/Cheney administration. All I can think is that the Obama administration places as much weight on the Constitution & duly ratified treaties as the Bush Administration did, which is to say, not at all unless they feel like it.



And, another reminder why we

And, another reminder why we can NEVER elect a GOP president again!!!



Liberty and Justice for all

Liberty and Justice for all rings hollow . It has been proven time and again that the so called Justice Department are rotten and corrupt to the core . They do the bidding of their masters , the real power behind the throne . Back in 2003 , the immigration department arrested Ernst Zuendel . He was deported to Canada , his former home since he was 19 years old. From there he was deported to Germany and jailed. His crime , " questioning some of the details of the holocaust" . He brought certain facts to light and was open to debate . We supposedly have freedom of speech in the U.S. and Canada . You can argue , debate , deny, question anything in the history of the world without severe punishment BUT the one subject that is TABOO is questioning the so called holocaust. What are the Zionists afraid of ? What is wrong with honest debate ? What are they hiding? Why do they insist on destroying a persons life ? Why do they insist on long prison terms along side murderers and rapists ? Why did the Zionists destroy Professor Finkelstein. He was a Jewish Professor at De Paul University, because of his writings critical of Israel , the Zionists and Alan Dershowitz [ Harvard ] put pressure on the University to fire Finkelstein . On the other hand , the Department of Justice arrested 2 AIPAC executives for espionage against the United States, Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman. They were clearly guilty BUT after dragging out and delaying a trial , they were recently released . Once again , the Power Behind the Throne rules and calls the shots. If they were Iranians or Palestinians , they would now be a guest of the state , as it should be. So much for justice . Our Justice Department , our elected Congressmen , have they no shame . Where are the PATRIOTS ?
TREASON IS THY NAME



ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!

ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!



Well calculated movement.

Well calculated movement. They have given total immunity and closed any chance that these guys be prosecuted internationally. Very clever but very unethical. So we have a SC breaking the backbone of the Constitution and a DOJ protecting and justifying questionable, unprofessional and reprehensible conducts. What remains there of our justice and judicial system?. This administration seems to be in a marathon to over-perform the former one.



The general discontent

The general discontent (among progressives anyway) is clearly evident in these posts. What dismays me is that some posters want to throw in the towel. The US gov't can be shaken up and made to work "for the people, by the people". Gov'ts in other democratic countries are responsive to the electorate and support agendas that benefit the large majority instead of the select few. The difference is that people in those countries are savvy and engaged. What is it about the US citizenry that makes them such sheep? A part of the answer to that question is the quality of education in the US, which always takes a back seat to defense spending and is manipulated by the right to dumb down the populace. Yes, we can take this country back but the confrontation will not be for the faint of heart.



Corruption is growing

Corruption is growing exponentially. The power elite absolutely insists on non-accountability. Accountability is for plebeians: suckers who rob liquor stores or grow their own Cannabis. Those guys do years in prison, while the monsters who abuse their government-held offices to enhance the power and wealth of the oligarchs through torture and murder are never held to account. Instead, they may expect to be amply rewarded for their services. It is painful to watch the body of one of humanity's noblest experiments in popular government with enumerated individual rights die before our eyes with barely a protest and to have its carcase picked clean by the big money interests.



5:17 anonymous sez~ "Further

5:17 anonymous sez~ "Further disgusting evidence that Obama is maybe barely better than Bush,"

Well I'm sure there is some reason that Holder gave quarter to this one, let not forget that the investigation into these war criminals is just barely under way. If in fact Holder let them slip away, we can hold him to the fact of his previous employment, that as a partner in the firm that represents Bush.

After all they are still rounding up the Nazis, and shipping them off to the Hague. Really there is not many places for any of them to go, but to stick it out here in the good `ole U.S.A. I'm sure this was not in the original game plan, with Bush buying that big tract of land in Paraguay, and his Vice building that huge mansion in Dubai. Good luck to both of them ever getting to enjoy the fruits(sic) of their labor.



Wheres the justice? 5:17

Wheres the justice?

5:17 anonymous sez~ "Further disgusting evidence that Obama is maybe barely better than Bush,"

Well I'm sure there is some reason that Holder gave quarter to this one, let not forget that the investigation into these war criminals is just barely under way. If in fact Holder let them slip away, we can hold him to the fact of his previous employment, that as a partner in the firm that represents Bush.

After all they are still rounding up the Nazis, and shipping them off to the Hague. Really there is not many places for any of them to go, but to stick it out here in the good `ole U.S.A. I'm sure this was not in the original game plan, with Bush buying that big tract of land in Paraguay, and his Vice building that huge mansion in Dubai. Good luck to both of them ever getting to enjoy the fruits(sic) of their labor.



Anyone who writes a "legal"

Anyone who writes a "legal" opinion that condones torture, which is illegal, is complicit in the torturing and killing of people arising from this decision. Mr. Yoo should not only be prosecuted for conspiring to commit torture, but should also be disbarred, and relieved of his duties at Berkeley where he can influence a new generation of lawyers to disregard the law!



go figure...

go figure...



Right-0n, Curt, et al.! If

Right-0n, Curt, et al.! If the U.S.S.S. (U.S. Secret Service), FBI, CIA, "(In)Justice" Department, "Defense" (aka War) Department (the latter as it used to, at least honestly then, be called---and should now be called Aggression Department), etc., weren't traitors protecting traitors, they would carry out what the Nuremberg Tribunals carried out against the then Nazi war criminals, hangings or long prison terms.

Of course, even then though, thousands of Nazis were secretly granted immunity and U.S. citizenship, shipped to the U.S., and from then on worked for the CIA, FBI and/or for the government's hand in nuclear armaments industry, etc.; in fact, helping to nuke Japan, their former ally, mass-murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent, non-combatant Japanese citizens, so-called "acceptable collateral damage".

In other words, the U.S. government has been completely corrupt in those ways for a very long time now, and at the present time it is getting ten or a hundred times worse. They have been slowly but surely, and intentionally, making the government more and more unconstitutional and criminal right under our noses, and acclimating us to it so that most "Americans" would accept it and/or exercise nothing but powerlessness against it.

They have also, through various means, been intentionally making most "Americans" cowards, traitors and complicit as well, thus causing far too many if not most of them to go over to "the dark side", give-in, capitulate to, and even come to support the absolute madness of "our" now "national security state". Heck, most "Americans" don't even "get" that national security states are countries and governments like Nazi Germany, and that they are a VERY bad thing.

Therefore, what do we do now? It DOES seem like it's beyond the point of no return, because "we" keep on allowing it to happen, and to get worse and worse. And most "Americans" have to wake up, become True Americans, and stand up en masse against all of this insanity, or it IS hopeless and nothing if anything sufficient is going to be done to stop it, and restore our Constitutional republic. But we CAN'T give up, because we ALL have the DUTY to stand up against it, even if we have to die in the process.

As I've said before, it is much better to die as True American Patriots than to die as complicit cowards and traitors like most so-called "good Americans" will, really believing the lie(s) that their treason(s) is and/or are "patriotic" like the so-called "good Germans" did in Nazi Germany. But most "American" citizens are so brainwashed by national security state "nationalism", as the Germans citizens were, that they don't see, and/or refuse to see, the huge danger that what is really the Fourth Reich in the U.S. poses to each and every one of us.



It comes down to who wins

It comes down to who wins the war. Winners go scot free, losers are hanged from the yardarm.

Now we know which side the Obama administration is truly on.



Right-on is Right-on!

Right-on is Right-on! Corporate fascism is alive and well in America. Although it's rarely mentioned, Hitler's Germany was as much about one group of people stealing from another than anything else. This has been the game-plan since the day the Republicanazis took office in 1980. When they got through plundering Iraq and left it for dead, they turned their attention to new targets including certain groups of American people.

The root cause of the problem is corporations. It's absurd to think you could self-govern under democratic ideals when the wealth of the country is owned by corporate anti-democratic fascists. Most people in the U.S. report in everyday to corporate fascists, so what would they know or care about democracy--or anything that relates to it like justice? Until and unless American corporations are stripped of their wealth and power, people will live in tyranny and they will never fight it. Start arresting corporate executives for their crimes, start making them pay--strip corporations of the status as "people" that Supreme Court rulings have bestowed on them, enforce the anti-trust laws (anti-monopoly), and then AND ONLY THEN, can democratic rule be restored to this country. There can be NO DEMOCRACY until and unless CORPORATIONS are stripped of their power and wealth, and their EXECUTIVES and BOARDS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR CRIMES HERE AND ABROAD. This is the fascist heart of the country. These are the anti-democratic centers of America--not the government. They OWN the government. People with the greatest interest in corporations are not, and never will be DEMOCRATIC in any way, shape or form. Their lives are dedicated to the acquisition of wealth and nothing and no one stands in the way of their goals. Justice and rule of law are quaint democratic ideals that have no place in their world view. They are the ROT of the country. Until and unless the white male authority figures and their anti-democratic ideals and corporations are dismantled, no one else will be free.



Anon 15:24, one piece of the

Anon 15:24, one piece of the puzzle overlooked in your comment is the 'god' living in the homes of most Americans, the TV. I 'report' daily to one of those fascist corporations but that does not sway me to support the fascist empire. It is my considered opinion that that box has done far more to delude and anesthetize the public than any other thing, creating a 'reality' entirely outside the real world, a reality that is the embodiment of the corporate message, and that 'god' is worshiped with 100 times more devotion than any deity in history ever was. This is the mechanism by which the takeover was accomplished, and until it is eliminated or wrested from corporate hands, or until 60+% of the public can no longer afford TVs and homes the 'public opinion' will be created by it. Chances are even if people cannot afford TVs the corporate powers will find a way to make sure they remain, even if they have to give them away for free.



The truth here is that Obama

The truth here is that Obama is protecting himself, and his continued agenda of secretive torture, not Bybee and Yoo. This is Obama looking out for himself when some good reporter, like Amy Goodman, gets ahold of the story that outs Obama's Bushian torture tactics. Remember, Obama is an attorney who is looking out for No. 1. Bybee and Yoo are just players providing a smokescreen for Obama, yet it's all so apparent that Obama does not want to hold these monsters accountable.



War criminals need legal

War criminals need legal sophistry to justify illegal purposes. The comments here provide hope for democracy. What Curt has written should be quoted in every household. "The Constitution: irrelevant. International laws of war that are also laws of the US according to US law: quaint, obsolete. The Justice Department has become the Justification Department, creating excuses for lawlessness rather than enforcing justice.
The government is a creation of the Constitution, if the Constitution is irrelevant then the government has no basis for any claim to authority, if the laws of the US mean nothing to it then the laws are null and void for all.
Our government is an organized crime syndicate, far worse and more dangerous than any that ever existed in recorded history. No matter what the future brings we are in bad times and things will get far worse before they get better, and they will not start to get better until the vast majority of the American people wake up and see the chains they are bound in, and see the vast evil being done in their name, and demand change. Until they're willing to give up American Idol, and give up the illusion that they are 'safe' while the predators in Washington run rampant, nothing will change."



Remember Dick Cheney, George

Remember Dick Cheney, George Bush, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, et al. are corporate executives first, public servants last. They serve themselves.



Press Release. Feb. 1.

Press Release.
Feb. 1. 2010
The Nixon Library and the Gerald Ford Memorial
Golf Academy will confer the Gerry Ford Award
for Meritorious Pardoning Services to
President Barack Obama.



Is O. a collabo?

Is O. a collabo?



If we actually had a

If we actually had a democracy (I know, "IT" claims to be a Republic with the people's "Representatives" ~yeah, right...) But, IF this was a democracy, the entire damn government would have been impeached. What innocents get caught up in it would be exonerated and come out clean.
IF we had a Democracy...IF we had a Republic.
~John L.



If you beat someone with a

If you beat someone with a baseball bat you go to jail. If you do the same to thousands but you do it with a pen and convoluted legalese, you get what... a pension?



Bravo to Curt 16:32 above.

Bravo to Curt 16:32 above. The term "crime syndicate" is so accurate, unfortunately. The former Soviet system has been called the same thing. Interesting...
The US government does have some ugly history; the Bush-Cheney regime made this much clearer. This should be the wake-up call for a lot of people. Too many Americans are still blindly attached to the propaganda that the system has fed them.



As per usual in the USA, and

As per usual in the USA, and the UK, procedural technicalities let the criminals of the Bush administration off the hook. File proceedings in the Hague! Your Republicans and Democrats can scuttle your Congress, shut it down for weeks, rewrite your Constitution at will, and your vaunted Justice Department is toothless and spineless. Why are you not in the streets?!



No one is in the streets

No one is in the streets because they care more about their paycheck than democracy. Capitalism rules this country. Capitalist rule is characterized by:

Top-down decision-making
No personal accountability
The end justifies the means
White-male authority figures are at the top, everyone else is underneath
White-male authority figures at the top are exempt from the laws that govern everyone else
The goal is to accumulate as much wealth as possible

Add Nationalism ("we're the best, everybody else is inferior), War/Invasions, Police Power, President/Dictator making laws and declaring war

and you have what's legally-defined as Fascism. Welcome to Corporate/Fascist America.

Shut down the corporations, and people will be in the streets demanding some accountability and financial justice. Strip corporations like AT&T and Chevron of their ill-gotten wealth and distribute it to the people it was stolen from through predatory lending practices, outrageous pricing and outright thievery,



Aren't you all afraid of

Aren't you all afraid of what will happen when these fascists start taking names and YOURS is on the list? Aren't you afraid that what you say here will piss off the very diabolical deviants that don't give a shit about you me or anyone else "the president" decides is unsavory? Man, I would be worried about people spying on me for giving my opinion and one day the phone rings in the middle of the night and I disappear forever. I guess people really don't believe that will happen. Heh heh heh



There are already "lists",

There are already "lists", "Boneman". About a million and a half innocent Americans are already on "terrorist" watch lists and the "No-Fly List". It will probably be two million very soon, if it isn't already. And all of these Americans are being "presumed guilty" in violation of the U.S. Constitution; but most "Americans" are brainwashed into presuming people guilty; so, if the government says they're "guilty", "they must be guilty". Thus, they go on letting it happen, and allowing innocent Americans be kept on such fascist lists, hundreds of thousands of whom are doing nothing but seeking to preserve and protect the liberties and freedoms of those who presume them guilty.



Boneman, I envy the Iranian

Boneman, I envy the Iranian people, willing to risk their life and limb, even willing to die, to provide a better future for their children and grandchildren- a future the US & Britain took from them when they overthrew the democratically elected government and installed the Shah. Yes I'm scared, but being afraid does not change the truth one iota and the truth needs to be told, change needs to happen, and if I'm disappeared for doing it at least I can go knowing I did what is right. There's nothing wrong about being afraid, there is something wrong about allowing fear to convince you to abide by evil and condemn future generations to enslavement.



As someone before me

As someone before me mentioned, many Nazi "war criminals" were given us citizenship and hailed as heroes for helping our military and space programs during the cold war. Werner Von Braun was able to write his book "I Aim For The Stars", (subtitle, "but I hit London"). Go figure.



Boneman, you head for the

Boneman, you head for the boxcar, I'll head for freedom any day.



If Yoo and Bybee are

If Yoo and Bybee are exonerated, look for even more corruption in the "legal profession," because they will become the benchmarks. God save America!



Murder is what Yoo has

Murder is what Yoo has gotten away with. The Convention Against Torture is the law of the land. It has not been cited here that it is Federal Law as well as International Law according to the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution. The issue is when torture is the result of government action or policy and the result of that policy is the death of a detainee the death penalty is proscribed. Everyone in Government has known this and it only "the people" who have been hoodwinked. What happens after President Obama's term? What will prevent our own Gulag Archipelago? Who shaped the investigation? Not Attorney Holder. Who, then?



It seems apparent that if

It seems apparent that if the "rule of law" is subverted, and no longer capable of replacing our natural desire to seek justice for grievances committed against us; when Law itself is adjudicated by a Court loyal only to the political and economic elite, then the only action left to the common citizen is the use of whatever level of force is necessary to stop them, and those who remain loyal to them.

When the police no longer serve the citizenry and instead enforce the will of undemocratic forces; who welcome newly found abilities to wire-tap and hold people without charge, then the police no longer deserve respect as enforcers of the rule of law. In a world without recourse to the state for justice, then there is only ourselves.

We are fast approaching a time when vigilante-ism is not only the only choice we have, but as such, has become the only moral path available.



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