350 Degrees of Inseparability: The Good News About the Very Bad News (About Climate Change)
Thursday 22 April 2010
by: Rebecca Solnit | TomDispatch.com

350 citizens at Te Henga to encourage people's involvement in the International Day of Action on Climate Change on October 24th. (Photo: Mark Smith)
These days, I see how optimistic and positive disaster and apocalypse movies were. Remember how, when those giant asteroids or alien space ships headed directly for Earth, everyone rallied and acted as one while our leaders led? We're in a movie like that now, except that there's not a lot of rallying or much leading above the grassroots level.
The movie is called "Climate Change," and you can tell its plot in a number of ways. In one, the alien monsters taking over the planet are called corporations, while the leaders who should be protecting us from their depredations are already subjugated and doing their bidding. Think of Chevron, Exxon, Shell, and the coal companies as gigantic entities that don't need clean water, or food, and don't care much if you do (as you can see from the filthy wreckage in their extraction zones and their spin against the science of our survival).
My recent research into conventional disasters suggests that climate change, despite its unconventional scale, is unfolding in ways familiar from the aftermaths of numerous hurricanes and earthquakes: the ruling elites too often "lead" by creating a second wave of destruction, while the rest of us pick up the pieces and do our best to do what's necessary. This is a movie whose crisis is upon us and whose resolution is out of sight, but if we are to be saved, I'll put my money on the small characters mitigating the crisis and getting us through the rough times to come.
The Day the Earth Got Stood Up
Last December, the Copenhagen Climate Summit gave the heads of state supposedly negotiating a future climate-change treaty a clear-cut choice between short-term profits for the few and the long-term survival of practically everyone and everything. As I'm sure you'll recall, they chose the former. You, the summer ice of the Arctic, about half the species on Earth, the shorelines of quite a few places, the glaciers of Glacier National Park, the birds in the trees, the marmots on the mountains, and the long-term future of just about everything were sold out for the sake of the market status quo, not by all the world's nations, but by the most powerful among them.
Not all of the elected leaders failed us. President Evo Morales of Bolivia called a people's summit on climate change which is going on right now, and the most threatened countries did a heroic job of facing up to the world's most powerful ones -- tiny Tuvalu, soon to go beneath the waves, told off China, for example. Thanks to their stand and so their insubordination, Bolivia and Ecuador both lost their shot at State Department funding meant for poor countries which need to prepare for future climate-change disasters.
Forbidding Planet
Bill McKibben offers another compelling plot for this horror movie in his new book, Eaarth: Making a Life on a Tough New Planet. Its premise is not that something terrible came to Earth -- after all we were the ones, over the last 200 years, who sent all those billions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere -- but that we ourselves have landed on a strange, dangerous, unfamiliar new planet he calls Eaarth. Think Forbidden Planet without Robby the Robot; think The Tempest with neither Ariel nor Prospero.
We no longer live on the kind, comfortable, stable planet we evolved on, he begins:
"For the last ten thousand years that constitute human civilization, we've existed in the sweetest of sweet spots. The temperature has barely budged; globally averaged, it's swung in the narrowest of ranges, between fifty-eight and sixty degrees Fahrenheit. That's warm enough that the ice sheets retreated from the centers of our continents so we could grow grain, but cold enough that mountain glaciers provided drinking and irrigation water to those plains and valleys year round; it was the 'correct' temperature for the marvelous diverse planet that seems right to us. And every aspect of our civilization reflects that particular world.
"We built our great cities next to seas that have remained tame and level, or at altitudes high enough that disease-bearing mosquitoes could not over-winter. We refined the farming that has swelled our numbers to take full advantage of that predictable heat and rainfall; our rice and corn and wheat can't imagine another earth either. Occasionally, in one place or another, there's an abrupt departure from the norm -- a hurricane, a drought, a freeze. But our very language reflects their rarity: freak storms, disturbances."
And then he begins to make the case that this planet, the one we've always lived on, no longer exists.
Nobody marshals facts better than McKibben. The first two chapters of Eaarth line up the evidence in a devastating way to show that climate change is not (despite the political rhetoric of the past decade) some horrid thing to be visited upon our grandchildren. It's here right now, visiting us. Here's just a sample of our world today:
"A NASA study in December 2008 found that warming [of more than a degree and a half Fahrenheit] was enough to trigger a 45 percent increase in thunder-clouds that can rise five miles above the sea, generating 'super-cells' with torrents of rain and hail. In fact, total global rainfall is now increasing 1.5 percent a decade. Larger storms over land now create more lightning; every degree Celsius brings about 6 percent more lightning, according to the climate scientist Amanda Staudt. In just one day in June 2008, lightning sparked 1,700 different fires across California, burning a million acres and setting a new state record. These blazes burned on the new earth, not the old one... In August 2009, scientists reported that lightning strikes in the Arctic had increased twenty-fold, igniting some of the first tundra fires ever observed.
"According to the [National Sea Ice Data Center] center's Mark Serrenze, the new data 'is reinforcing the notion that the Arctic ice is in its death spiral.'"
Then he mentions that a trillion tons of Greenland's ice melted between 2003 and 2008, a mass ten times the size of Manhattan. Someone recently pointed out that the term moving at a "glacial pace" makes no sense any more, not now that Greenland's ice sheet is pitted and undercut by rushing torrents of meltwater and the glacial landscape of mountaintops from the Andes to the Rockies is changing with almost blinding speed.
Weird stuff is happening everywhere: since McKibben's book went to press, numerous news sources reported that a two-mile-long island in the Bay of Bengal, long fought over by Bangladesh and India, is no longer a bone of contention. The rising waters have erased it.
McKibben doesn't say a lot about himself in the book, except for some New England anecdotes to which the Massachusetts-raised Vermonter was a witness. Too bad, since he himself could star in the movie you should be watching, the one about the low-key writer-guy who, upon realizing that his excellent writing on climate change isn't waking us up enough, takes to dashing around the planet to do the job as an activist.
Mr. Smith Goes to Copenhagen. (People eager to suggest that flying is carbon-intensive should check themselves; the world is not going to be saved by individual acts of virtue, only by collective acts of change of a kind that would lead to China and the U.S.A. radically revising their energy policies.) In recent years he seems to have become one of the figures I've run across occasionally in my own activism: someone so filled up with purpose they've become a conduit for change, and a lot of the personal -- like ease and comfort -- get washed aside for the sake of the mission. He's achieved remarkable things. Notably with 350.org.
350 Degrees of Inseparability
A word about that number, 350. For a long time, McKibben relates, the premise, or pretense, was that the parts per million of atmospheric carbon we needed to worry about was 550, double the historic concentration. As it turns out, it was also a random figure, easy to calculate, not too alarming. We weren't anywhere near there yet, which is why we could frame global warming as some terrible thing that was going to happen way down the road -- the grandchildren theory of climate change.
Then the scientists got more data and so more precision about where peril lay: in December of 2007, NASA climatologist James Hansen announced at the American Geophysical Union that 350 was about the upper limit at which life on Earth as we know and like it was likely to continue.
We're now at about 390. We don't get to go up dozens of more degrees before the peril strikes. We need to go down now, dramatically. Imagine that change of numbers as like shifting from worrying about whether the butter on your toast was going to clog your arteries way down the road to worrying about whether you'd just swallowed a dose of really creepy industrial sludge and should start puking. The crisis was, in fact, in the past, and the future was upon us.
"The day Jim Hansen announced that number was the day I knew we'd never again inhabit the planet I'd been born on, or anything close to it," McKibben writes in Eaarth. So he co-founded a grassroots organization, 350.org, with a posse of younger activists he'd met through a climate-change campaign in Vermont.
That small team proved something important: that we could respond to what's happening on our planet with a speed nearly commensurate with the growing danger. The group's numerical name, with its crystal-clear target, worked in every imaginable language on Eaarth as words would not have.
A year after Hansen's announcement, McKibben sent me an e-mail:
"What we need is a rallying cry, an idea around which to coalesce. That's why we're running 350.org, and why we'll do a huge global day of action on Oct. 24. We need a measuring stick against which to critique Copenhagen, and 350 ppm co2 is the best one we're going to get. It implies dramatic and urgent and apple-cart-upsetting action, but it comes at it from a position of strength, not defensiveness. Our hope is that a huge worldwide outpouring on Oct. 24 will set a bar to make any action in Copenhagen powerful."
It worked.
It Happened One Day
At this point, let Climate Change, the movie, zoom out from following our protagonist to pan the amazing October 24th visual spectacle of groups of all sizes around the world pushing the number 350 -- spelling it out (and into our consciousness) with their bodies for overhead photographs, holding signs in tribal villages, schoolyards, and urban plazas, everywhere from Madagascar to Slovakia. In one poignant case, a lone girl in Babylon, Iraq, who -- you might think -- had enough to worry about already, held up her hand-drawn 350 sign for a photographer who somehow managed to send the picture in to the organization. (I did my own little bit for the day, getting a few writers -- Diane DiPrima, Ariel Dorfman, Barry Lopez -- to contribute 350-word pieces they'd written to spur on the participants.)
There were more than 5,000 actions in 181 countries, which is to say, in most parts of the world. I've asked some groups and it's clear that quite a lot of people now know what the number 350 means. So did a lot of politicians and policy-makers by the time Copenhagen came around. The action mattered. Things changed.
That day of actions added a key tool to a previously faltering dialogue: suddenly, ordinary people, organizers, and elected officials had a concrete goal to reach for and a point of entry into the complex science of climate change. By the time the Copenhagen conference rolled around, 112 of the participating countries had endorsed that 350 ppm goal, the majority of nations at the conference -- if, alas, the poorer and less influential ones.
Still, this took place a mere two years after Hansen first proposed the number as a measure of our global health, an astonishing adaptation to new ideas. The list of 350 endorsers begins at "A" with Afghanistan, which on this issue at least proved a much saner country than the U.S., and on through a long list of most of the poor nations, island-nations, and African nations, to Vietnam, Yemen, and Zambia.
The list offers a new way of sorting out the world in which the United States finds itself on the wrong side of history, but also of science, nature, and survival. Of course, this country is always a mix: the nation of Jim Crow was also the nation of the Montgomery bus boycott and Freedom Summer, and the nation of the greatest climate emissions per capita is also the nation of Hansen, McKibben, and a host of innovative activists offering practical solutions to the problems climate change poses.
V for Viable
The early part of Eaarth offers the grim news about the way one species, ours, remade our world -- so radically that it has become a turbulent, surprisingly inhospitable new planet. And here's the bad news: no matter what we do, it will continue to get worse, at least for a while, though how much worse depends on whether we act.
Fortunately, the second half of McKibben's book offers a kind of redemption and a lot to do, and so gives the book the shape of a "V," if not for victory, then for viability: you tumble into the pit of bad news, then clamber up the narrative of possibility -- of what our responses should look like, could look like, must look like. This is where this particular book diverges from the mountains of recent publications on the facts around climate change: if the first half is a science jeremiad, the second half is a very practical handbook.
My friend Patrick Reinsborough of the Smart Meme Project likes to talk about the "battle of the story, rather than the story of the battle," of the need for activists to pay attention to narratives, because at least half of any battle turns out to be over just what the story is, and who gets to tell it. If we're ever going to get much of anything done about climate change we're going to have to change the story -- not the scientific story about parts per million of carbon, and black soot, and methane in the atmosphere, which we need to find ways to broadcast over the white noise of corporate-funded climate denial, but the story of what we might want to do about it.
Right now, the story that everyone tends to tell, no matter what their political positions on climate change, is about renunciation: we'll have to give up cars, big houses, air travel, all our toys and pleasures. It's a story where we get poorer. No one but saints and ascetics likes giving things up. What's exhilarating about Eaarth is that McKibben has a surprisingly different tale to tell. His version of the solution would make most of us richer -- even if not in the ways we are presently accustomed to counting as wealth.
His vision is kind of delicious, at least if you like participatory democracy, local power, community, real security, and good food. Okay, it requires renunciation -- but of things a lot of us would love to give up, including the whole alienated mode in which both power and production are centralized in remote and politically inaccessible sites -- from food produced overseas to decisions made in furtive board meetings of multinational corporations. These things are awful for a lot of reasons, but the salient one is that they're part of the carbon-intensive conventional economy. So they have to go.
Eaarth is actually an exceedingly polite, understated cry for revolution, but one that makes it clear how differently we need to do a whole lot of basic things. If it's all about how you tell the story, then McKibben tells one that hasn't, until now, been associated with climate change, one in which life, in ways that really matter, gets better. And it's a winner, maybe even a game-changer.
Cheap Is the New Expensive
Another writer, David Kirby, was on my local radio station, KALW, the other day talking about his book, Animal Factory, and making the case that cheap meat is actually very expensive -- if you count the impact on human health and the environment. Swine flu, which killed tens of thousands, sickened millions around the globe, and cost us a lot in terms of vaccines and treatments, likely evolved on one of the giant animal concentration units that pass for farms nowadays, and so host antibiotic-resistant bacteria, as well as concentrations of pollution from animal waste that harm hundreds of thousands or millions directly. "Should the multibillion [dollar] cost of swine flu be factored into the cost of every pork chop sold?" he asks, and adds, "And if so, what would that come out to, per pound?"
In the same way, the American way of life -- often portrayed as a pinnacle of affluence -- is in many ways deeply impoverished. We're not poor in material goods, from new houses to hamburgers, though their quality is often dubious, and the wealthiest country the world has ever seen produces surprising amounts of hunger, poverty, and homelessness through the misdistribution of that wealth.
Even for the affluent, everyday American life is often remarkably impoverished, if measured in terms of free time, social connectedness, political engagement, meaningful work, or other things harder to calibrate than the horsepower of your engine or the square feet of your McMansion. And this way of living produces the carbon that is replacing the planet we evolved on with McKibben's Eaarth -- about as high a price as we could pay, short of extinction.
Cheap oil requires our insanely expensive military whose annual budget amounts to nearly as much as the rest of the world's militaries put together, a crazy foreign policy, and in the past decade, a lot of death in the Middle East. It also pushes along the destruction of nearly everything via climate-change, a cost so terrible that the word "unaffordable" doesn't begin to describe it. "Unimaginable" might, except that the point of all the data and data projections is to imagine it clearly enough so that we react to it.
McKibben's vision of a world in which we might survive and even lead decent lives features decentralized food and energy production. Farewell, mega-corporations! (though, unlike me, he's pretty polite about their influence on our society and the environment). His suggested mode of doing things -- a vision of an alternative to capitalism as we know it -- could be flexible, adapted to the peculiarities of regions, and low-carbon or carbon-neutral, unlike the systems on which we now rely. It would also require people to become more involved in local economies, ecologies, and policies, which is the scale at which viable adaptation seems likely to work best. (This is ground he covered in his 2007 book Deep Economy.)
His is, in fact, a vision of the good life that a host of flourishing institutions like farmers' markets and community-assisted agriculture, organic farming, and small-scale farms are already embracing. In many ways, the solutions to our crisis are under development all around us, if only we'd care to notice.
They are here in our world in bits and pieces, as well as in parts of the so-called underdeveloped world that someday may turn out to be the sustainably developed world. They need, however, to be implemented on a grand scale -- not by scaling them up, because their smallness is their beauty and efficiency, but by multiplying them until they become the norm. If they require losing what we have, they promise to recover what we've lost.
(Not So) Titanic
McKibben ends his book by marshaling a host of statistics and stories about just how this kind of agriculture works, now, around the world, and ways, in the future, alternative energies could be similarly innovative and effective. So, of course, could a commitment to energy efficiency. The first changes we could make, starting tomorrow, undoubtedly involve reengineering everything from buildings to transit in the name of energy efficiency.
I live in a state that decided to implement such efficiency measures after the oil crisis of the 1970s. As a result, the average Californian now uses about half as much energy as the average American, not out of saintliness, but out of sophistication. We need to reduce our energy consumption by a huge percentage, but McKibben points out we could achieve the first 20% of the necessary reduction through efficiency alone, which is a painless step. I can testify that it doesn't feel like renouncing anything to live in better-built structures with better-designed machines.
To survive, McKibben suggests, we'll also need a lot of flexible, responsive institutions that aren't too big to fail or too big to adapt to the coming climate chaos. Describing a little inner-city savings and loan in Los Angeles, he writes:
"There's nothing that Broadway Federal could do to trigger a recession, and that's the other advantage of smallness: mistakes are mistakes, not crises, until they're interconnected into a massive system. Many small things breed a kind of stability; a few big things endanger it -- better the Fortune 500,000 than the Fortune 500 (unless you want to be an eight-figure CEO)."
A lot of people don't even want to take in the reality of climate change, let alone do anything about it, because it seems so overwhelming. Eaarth's most significant strength lies in the way it breaks our potential response to climate change's enormity down into actions and possible changes that not only seem viable and graspable, but alluring. One of the most interesting phenomena of the Bush era was the way addressing climate change here in the United States devolved to the level of states, regions, and cities -- the U.S. Council of Mayors got behind doing something for the environment (and us) at a time when the federal government was intent only on making the world safe for oil barons. It was in this same period that the state of California set emissions standards for vehicles that the Obama administration has now adapted.
But that administration isn't doing nearly what's required either. Last year, speaking of the economy, Barack Obama said: "Look back four years from now, I think, hopefully, people will judge [our] body of work and say, 'This is a big ocean liner, it's not a speedboat. It doesn't turn around immediately.''
It's an unfortunate thing to say, since the most familiar image of ocean liners in popular culture involves a calamitous meeting with an iceberg 98 years ago. If we were imagining climate change as a movie, our ship of state would still ram the iceberg, but this time the passengers would have debarked ahead of time.
If the ship of state can't turn in time to avert catastrophe, it's time to jump ship and put ourselves into small, mobile lifeboats, canoes, outriggers, and kayaks. The age of the giants is over; the future belongs to the small fry. If we want to have a future, that is. It's really your choice because, whether you know it or not, whether you like it or not, you're also starring in this movie.
Rebecca Solnit, author most recently of A Paradise Built in Hell, is a good person with solar panels and a bad person with lots of work-related frequent-flyer miles, as well as a regular Tomdispatch.com contributor and a great believer in non-electoral politics and direct action in the street. To listen to Timothy MacBain's latest TomCast audio interview in which Solnit discusses what hope can do in the worst of circumstances click here or, if you prefer to download it to your iPod, here.
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Obummer's putting lipstick
Thu, 04/22/2010 - 12:43 — Vic Anderson (not verified)Obummer's putting lipstick on a Bush HOG : "This is a big ocean liner, it's not a speedboat. It doesn't turn around immediately.'' This is the same quote of Poppy in describing why he couldn't honor his 1988 campaign promise of, "Every wetland, no Matter HOW SMALL, should be preserved"; even when backed up by the Clean Water Act's 1985 DEADLINE to do precisely that! It's just another of Franklin Rusevelt's pretexts for his abject failures to enforce the laws of the land!
Shades of "Small is
Thu, 04/22/2010 - 18:50 — Dr. Bill Bushing (not verified)Shades of "Small is Beautiful" revisited (and that's a good thing).
Knowledge of ecological theory suggests that when things become too big to fail, the system is less stable and ready for collapse. If only economists spent more time learning about how natural systems function, they might better understand the human construct called the "economy."
The metaphor of cheap thrill
Fri, 04/23/2010 - 19:12 — Anonymous (not verified)The metaphor of cheap thrill Hollywood movies is appropriate to the climate change scare, because IT'S ALL MADE UP.
Just for one example: The 2-mile-long island between India and Bangladesh was a SAND BAR. From Wikipedia:
"...neither country established any permanent settlement there because of the island’s geographical instability based on silt deposits in a delta which floods every year."
Temporary estuary islands come and go all the time, worldwide. This one was located in a politically hot area, otherwise no one would have cared about it ever.
Another example: Tuvalu. Tuvalu is a coral atoll island, which means it never gets too low (because the coral is always growing) and it never gets too high (because wind erosion limits upward growth). Ironically, it was Darwin who discovered how coral atoll islands are formed. Look into it. Google "Darwin coral atoll tuvalu" (without the quotes) and see what comes up.
Coral atolls are endangered by their own unwise practices which are, among other things, limiting coral growth, limiting coral sand production and increase erosion. Not smart. They wouldn't mind a great big hand-out from the developed world, however.
Despite what Anonymous 23:50
Sat, 04/24/2010 - 10:39 — Brian (not verified)Despite what Anonymous 23:50 may believe, the climate crisis is not made up. What this person doesn't understand is that we have only seen the beginnings of the climate changes we are now committed to.
The oceans may not have risen much yet, but they are rising, and they will continue to rise for hundreds of years AFTER we stop emitting greenhouse gases. Sea ice is melting now, ice caps in both the Arctic and Antarctic are melting now, glaciers are melting now, permafrost is melting now and releasing more greenhouse gas, the ocean floors are releasing more methane as they warm, and on and on.
Study after study indicates the situation is much worse than scientists thought, that the models underestimate the coming changes, that in the past when CO2 levels were this high it eventually got much hotter than the models tell us (2 to 5.6 degrees C hotter than now) and the oceans rose orders of magnitude more than the predict (120 feet higher than now).
We are already committed to a very dangerous level of global warming, and now the fight is to make the coming mass extinction a relatively small one instead of the biggest ever, and to give the human species a chance to survive as opposed to virtually guaranteed extinction. This is not made up. This is the findings of science. The propaganda denying the science, which Anonymous and many others have fallen for, is what is made up. All you have to do to see this is check their work. It is full of errors, faulty logic, manipulated data, and outright lies. Just check it, that's all you have to do.
Some say we should not dwell
Sat, 04/24/2010 - 19:40 — Brian (not verified)Some say we should not dwell too much on the dangers of climate change caused by global warming, but I think we do a disservice by not letting people know just how bad things will get if we don't act in time. It’s OK to feel some fear and even despair. Do you think the British people didn’t feel those emotions when Germany was bombing them? They didn’t give up and eventually won the war. If they hadn’t been fully aware of the threat Germany posed to them, in an emotional or gut way, they would not have fought as hard and could easily have lost. The United States was complacent, even though it saw what was happening to so many other countries, until we were attacked directly. We fought back and won, but not until we felt our country and our lives were on the line.
People need to realize that we are being attacked right now, by the forces that are trying to block efforts to fight global warming. We need to fight those forces with all our might. They are our enemy as much as global warming is. We don’t feel the effects of global warming much yet, but they are coming. If we wait until we really feel them, it will be far too late. But we need to know how bad it will get, and the vast majority of people have no idea. At the same time, we can focus on the enemy that is easier to see and is trying to kill our future right now – all the corporations and organizations and individuals who are spreading propaganda to confuse people about global warming and to block the fight against global warming, all so they can make a bigger short term profit. It is no exaggeration to say they are our mortal enemies.
To put it into some kind of context, the threat of global warming is orders of magnitude greater than World War II. Millions died in that war, but billions will die if we let global warming get out of control. I used WWII as an example, because that was a time when our huge nation moved very quickly to do what was needed. That proves we really can turn this ship quickly if we try. That is the kind of action we need right now. But we have to first believe that we need to do it. We need the type of leadership that FDR gave us then. We don't need a president like Bush who would trade the future of our nation and of life on earth for oil profits. But we also don’t need a president like Obama, who hides behind Congress, letting them come up with a bill that is obviously and grossly deficient.
This is a national security issue of the highest order, and both Bush and Obama are derelict in their duty. Of course Bush was much worse, but Obama is not good enough. And not good enough in this case is not much different from much worse, in the end. If feedback takes global warming out of control, the result will be exactly the same. This is what the vast majority of people don’t understand. There is an absolute minimum that was must do, and we cannot compromise, or we will fail. We won’t succeed unless millions join in. But we also won’t succeed unless our leaders start leading and establish the framework in which the people will be able to do enough. We need to change our energy system very quickly. We will not make it unless we treat this as an emergency situation, more urgent than World War II. And that means everyone, especially Obama and members of Congress.
According to 15:39, "All you
Sat, 04/24/2010 - 21:31 — Anonymous (not verified)According to 15:39, "All you have to do to see this is check [climate skeptics'] work." However, he most notably failed to do exactly that. I gave just two examples of false claims from this article, and 15:39 apparently has no evidence to counter it. So instead he relies on one of the warmists' favorites: ad hominem attack.
In fact, I can use 15:39's exact words and apply these words to alarmists: "All you have to do to see this is check [alarmists'] work. It is full of errors, faulty logic, manipulated data, and outright lies. Just check it, that's all you have to do." In fact, that's what I did do, and it's what I continue to do.
Anonymous 02:31, I did not
Sat, 04/24/2010 - 22:18 — Brian (not verified)Anonymous 02:31, I did not bother to refute the points you made because I was refuting your overall claim that climate science is "ALL MADE UP". Besides, your points do nothing to discount any of the work of climate scientists.
Sea level is rising, whether or not the disputed island was really a sand bar and whether or not Tuvalu is taking good care of its coral reefs. Your arguments are irrelevant to the fact that sea level is rising. All these low-lying islands and coastal areas are going under water faster than they would have if sea level had remained the same or gone down. Your points do nothing to prove this is wrong.
Tuvalu's coral reefs will die before long no matter how well they take care of them, because the ocean is getting too acidic, from absorbing about half of our excess CO2. You can't dispute that ocean acidity is rising, because it has been measured and confirmed over and over, and the same goes for rising CO2 levels. Scientists have shown using a variety of different techniques that CO2 and temperature have always gone up and down together in the past, and either can drive the other. Now CO2 is going up and temperature is going to follow.
You can deny all you want, but you are just denying the history of the earth. If you happen to believe that temperature and CO2 will not be linked this time, that is irrelevant. Reality is reality, and your beliefs can't change it. You might as well learn what is really happening instead of fighting imaginary conspiracies.
03:18: Your alarmism is
Mon, 04/26/2010 - 10:27 — Anonymous (not verified)03:18: Your alarmism is excellent, your evidence is lacking.
Here's another made-up claim from this article:
"We no longer live on the kind, comfortable, stable planet we evolved on...."
Here are some quotes from Watts Up With That, the #1 most popular climate site, on April 13:
"In 1908, a hurricane formed on March 6, the earliest on record."
"In 1954, Hurricane Alice formed on December 30, the latest on record."
"In 1961, Hurricane Carla made landfall in Texas. It was the most intense hurricane to ever hit the US."
"In 1900, a hurricane killed 8.000 people in Galveston, Texas."
"In 1780, a hurricane killed more than 27,500 people in the Carribean."
"In 1960, 60% of the farmland in China received no rain. Somewhere between 20 and 43 million people died due to extreme weather and mismanagement by the socialist government."
"In the 1930s, the US suffered extreme heat and drought, resulting in the dust bowl. It was the warmest decade on record in the US (at least before USHCN cleverly adjusted it downwards.)"
"violent weather, like strong tornadoes": in the 1970s, "there were lots more of them" (shown in graph from NCOA)
So when exactly was this mythical stable weather?
Regarding sea level: Sea
Mon, 04/26/2010 - 10:36 — Anonymous (not verified)Regarding sea level: Sea level has been rising since the end of the last ice age almost 18,000 years ago. We just need another good ice age and it will go down again.
Anonymous 15:27, I knew you
Mon, 04/26/2010 - 12:03 — Brian (not verified)Anonymous 15:27, I knew you had been fooled by propaganda sites funded by the fossil fuel industry. Watts Up With That is one of the many web sites they created to sow confusion about climate science, and it worked very well with many people, including you.
One of your problems is that you see a list of items and make erroneous conclusions from them (or accept the erroneous conclusions from the people who compiled the list). Watts Up is using one of the favorite dirty tricks of the deniers, called cherry-picking data. It's just like listing a series of hot days that occurred in the past and claiming that proves it isn't warming now. That proves nothing at all. When you pick out specific data and list it with no context, you can make it seem to show anything you want. That is what Watts Up did, and unfortunately you fell for it.
The truth is, when you look at ALL the data, the number and severity of extreme weather events has been increasing as it gets warmer. There is no magic involved: warmer temperature = more energy, some of which is released in the form of severe weather. Also, the oceans have been rising FASTER the past few decades than they were before, but as usual, you conveniently ignore the truly important facts. You have vast areas of ignorance and make your conclusions based on the cherry-picked data and faulty reasoning fed to you by the industries that are causing the problem and stand to lose money if we fix the problem. Whether you are doing it intentionally or not, you are contributing to the problem and helping the industries that are making a profit from ruining the world for us all.
Do yourself a favor, wean yourself from the propaganda sites for a little while and learn some real climate science. David Archer's two most recent books are excellent places to start. You will be amazed how much evidence there is, all deliberately ignored by your current sources of information.
17:03 You entire post was
Mon, 04/26/2010 - 13:50 — Anonymous (not verified)17:03
You entire post was primarily ad hominem attack, a favorite among alarmists. If warmists can't address skeptics' arguments with facts, they will lose the debate, which is fine by me.
On the contrary, looking at all the data reveals there are no more disasters now than there ever have been. Just google [roger pielke jr "castles built on sand"] (without the brackets). Pielke is a warmist, but one who looks at the evidence within his specialty, which is disasters.
Warm periods have always been times of greater prosperity than cold periods--maybe it's all that extra "energy".
In addition, the old bugaboo of ocean acidification is largely overdramatized, as well. Google ["Hendriks et al. (2010)" ocean acidification] (removing the brackets) and see what comes up.
Rate of sea level rise has been going up and down for the past century, in a cyclical manner. From Holgate, 2007: "The rate of sea level change was found to be larger in the early part of last century (2.03 ± 0.35 mm/yr 1904–1953), in comparison with the latter part (1.45 ± 0.34 mm/yr 1954–2003)." Just google [holgate sea level 2007].
I'm not going to purchase any warmist books and contribute amy money to the warmist propaganda machine. If you can't find any sources that support your claims on the internet, then forget it.
Now, notice that I've consistently supplied specific verifiable facts, while you've relied on generalities and alarmism.
By the way, 17:03, where is
Mon, 04/26/2010 - 14:19 — Anonymous (not verified)By the way, 17:03, where is your evidence to support your claim that WattsUpWithThat is a site created by the fossil fuel industry? I have done a little looking and have found nothing to support this, even from the most paranoid of warmist conspiracy theorists. Show us your proof, if you are truthful!