Sick Bastards
Wednesday 22 September 2010
by: William Rivers Pitt, t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

Mike Huckabee attacked the Obama administration's health care reform legislation, denouncing the provision requiring insurers to cover people's pre-existing conditions, comparing them to houses that have already burned down. (Image: Lance Page / t r u t h o u t; Adapted: Aaron Webb, 111 Emergency, Christopher Najewicz)
A segment of Truthout's readership has made statements to me bemoaning the harsh tenor of my writing in recent weeks. To wit: I am too insulting and belittling in my descriptions of the Republican Party in general, the Tea Party phenomenon in particular, and the hatefully deranged nature of their philosophy in its entirety. It is a turn-off, they tell me, and serves only to drive people away who might otherwise be convinced by a more moderate tone. I might have been convinced to cool it down, to approach the matter with more balance and equanimity, but that's all over now. After this past weekend, the gloves are staying off, and anyone who doesn't understand why is just going to have to simmer in their disapproval.
It's personal now.
This past weekend, an event called the Values Voters Summit was held in Washington DC. It's a kind of big-tent showcase for the fundamentalist far-right base of the Republican Party, sponsored by such leading conservative lights as the Family Research Council, the Heritage Foundation, and Jerry Falwell's Liberty University. Some of the featured speakers included Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Insane), Gary Bauer, Bill Bennett, the wildly fertile Duggar family, Newt Gingrich, Sean Hannity, anti-masturbation candidate and occasional dabbler in witchcraft Christine O'Donnell, Phyllis Schlafly, Mitt Romney, and of course, Sarah Palin.
You can imagine the sort of demented gibberish that came from the podium over the weekend, and frankly, most of it was too mind-numbing to repeat in any detail. Newt Gingrich did his little song and dance about how Islam is coming to eat your children. Christine O'Donnell reprised the nonsense about "death panels." One fellow, a senior aide to Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK), argued that all pornography is by nature homosexual, and therefore watching any form of pornography will make the viewer instantly gay. Gay people in general, a woman's right to choose and all things Obama took it in the chops, with plenty of birth certificate speculation to go around.
So, yeah, it was pretty standard stuff, given the roster of speakers who made the scene. But at one point during the event, new ground was broken in truly astonishing fashion. One becomes accustomed to cruel, insensitive, hate-filled rhetoric from the kind of people who dwell in this particular region of politics, but when Mike Huckabee took the stage, a whole new standard was set.
Now, I used to have a certain twisted affection for Mike Huckabee. I agree with virtually nothing he says, but I credit him for handing the 2008 GOP nomination to the very beatable John McCain during the primaries. The two most viable candidates, you will recall, were Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney, both of whom were jockeying for the all-important GOP base vote. But Huckabee was the darling candidate of that base, and kept getting 50% of that vote in every primary, which served to drastically undercut the Giuliani and Romney campaigns. Huckabee stayed in the race just long enough to ruin Rudy and Mitt before dropping out himself, and McCain won the nomination pretty much by default. The rest, as they say, is history.
After this weekend, however, that lingering affection has curdled completely. Huckabee took the podium at the Values Voters Summit to attack and denounce the Obama administration's health care reform legislation, which was par for the course as far as the event went. But Huckabee was not content merely to repeat the "It's a government takeover, let's repeal it" rhetoric, choosing instead to carve a bold new path into the annals of infamy:
When Republicans attack health care reform, Democrats like to counter by accusing Republicans of wanting to repeal a law that requires insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions. According to Republican Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee, that's exactly right. People with pre-existing conditions, he explains, are like houses that have already burned down.
"It sounds so good, and it's such a warm message to say we're not gonna deny anyone from a preexisting condition," Huckabee explained at the Value Voters Summit today. "Look, I think that sounds terrific, but I want to ask you something from a common sense perspective. Suppose we applied that principle [to] our property insurance. And you can call your insurance agent and say, "I'd like to buy some insurance for my house." He'd say, "Tell me about your house." "Well sir, it burned down yesterday, but I'd like to insure it today." And he'll say, "I'm sorry, but we can't insure it after it's already burned." Well, no pre-existing conditions."
(Emphasis added)
Let's look at some numbers, shall we?
According to the American Heart Association, more than 81,000,000 Americans suffer from one or more forms of cardiovascular disease. According to the American Cancer Society, more than 11,000,000 people in America currently suffer from some form of cancer. According to the American Diabetes Association, 23.6 million Americans currently suffer from diabetes, and the Center for Disease Control has estimated as many as half of all Americans will suffer from the disease by the year 2050, thanks to our deplorable dietary habits. According to the National Parkinson's Foundation, between 50,000 and 60,000 new cases of Parkinson's Disease are diagnosed in America each year. According to the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, some 400,000 Americans currently suffer from MS.
That's a pretty substantial portion of the population, with more being diagnosed with cardiovascular diseases, cancer, diabetes, Parkinson's and MS every day.
All of them, every single one of them, are like a house that has already burned down, according to Mike Huckabee and the sick bastards who cheered his comments. All of them, every single one of them, are not worthy of health insurance because they had the misfortune of getting sick before they got insurance. All of them, every single one of them, therefore, are not worthy of health care in any real form, unless, of course, they are wealthy and able to afford the staggering cost of ill health in America.
All of them, in short, every single one of them, can basically just go die in Mike Huckabee's world. They are not worthy of coverage, treatment or consideration. The five diseases I listed account for well over a third of the American population, and if Mike Huckabee or someone who agrees with him somehow becomes president someday, those millions of people should just dig their own graves and lie down in them.
Yeah, that's why I'm not polite to these people. My wife has multiple sclerosis, and Mr. Huckabee this weekend compared her to a burned-down house. My wife is a vibrant, active woman who deals with a terrible, terrifying disease that costs upwards of $50,000 a year to treat. Thankfully, my wife was already insured through work when she was diagnosed, but there are many thousands of people out there with MS who have no insurance, or who won't have insurance when they get diagnosed. If Huckabee has his way, people with pre-existing conditions will be treated as burned-down houses and essentially left to die.
To hear a man who gets treated like a legitimate voice in American politics basically consign my wife and millions of other Americans to suffering and death is to hear nothing more or less than flat-out hate speech from a presidential candidate. What Mike Huckabee suggested is tantamount to eugenics, to the extermination of "weaker" people simply because they are ill.
If this kind of talk isn't enough to convince Republicans that the fringe of their party is to be avoided at all costs, then nothing in the world will. There have to be at least a few unwell Republicans in the country, right? There have to be some Republicans with heart trouble, cancer, diabetes, Parkinson's or MS, right? If so, those people had better start digging that grave for themselves, especially if they are stupid enough to support Mike Huckabee or anyone else who agrees with him.
Be polite to these people if that's your nature. It is not in mine, especially after the display this past weekend. These people are the sick ones, the ones with pre-existing conditions, and they should be barred from holding public office by the voters because of it. They are all sick bastards, and I have no interest in being nice about it. Do you know anyone with heart trouble, cancer, diabetes, Parkinson's, MS, or some other illness like these? Maybe Alzheimer's? If so, you shouldn't be nice, either. Someday, it may be you on the wrong end of such a diagnosis, and if people like Huckabee and his ilk have their way, dig a grave and lie down in it. You're a burned-down house, and your country has no use for you.

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How can anybody know what's
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 14:27 — Erich Von Freemason (not verified)How can anybody know what's at the core of any political movement when all we get in the media is propaganda? On the rare occasion that I watch TV news, I think that the country has gone insane. Then, I look around my community and notice that TV news isn't reflective of ANYBODY in the real world. It's a complete and total fiction. It's theater disguised as news.
Here's an experiment for the readers: watch 10 minutes of Fox News, paying close attention to separating the facts from the editorial rhetoric, then switch to CNN (or re-read this article), looking for the same things. Most people find it very easy to spot the propaganda in a source they disagree with, but have a very hard time spotting the propaganda in sources they agree with.
The news media has degenerated to the point that it is little more than a verbal version of All-Star Wrestling, and the author bears his share of culpability. Don't be proud of "taking off the gloves;" be ashamed. Or, take the gloves off completely: refer to Democrats as the party of Klansman Robert Byrd. Refer to the Clintons as "those people who use the n-word all the time." At least be fair.
Thanks for your new tone, on
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 14:37 — Anonymous (not verified)Thanks for your new tone, on this and on our empty suit president. Your timid balancing acts in past infuriated me.
Keep the gloves off!
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 14:39 — Anonymous (not verified)Keep the gloves off!
So under your scenario, why
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 14:43 — Anonymous (not verified)So under your scenario, why should anyone purchase health insurance until they are diagnosed with a medical issue? Wouldn't that leave the insurance industry with only sick people that can't pay the premiums? Sounds like a failed business model to me.
How does your juvenile rant address that Pitt?
Nail on the head, Will. As
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 14:51 — Saje Williams (not verified)Nail on the head, Will. As usual. @Erich... were you born an asshole, or did you have to go to a Trollish work study program?
Would you stop talking about
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 14:52 — Anonymous (not verified)Would you stop talking about yourself in your op-eds? Chris Hedges, now that's authentic, factual firebrand that you need to aspire to,
William is just saying
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:16 — Eloots (not verified)William is just saying things as they should be said, not beating around the bush.
Thanks William for doing so.
Just turning the other check to counter this just won't cut it.
America is currently on the slippery slope leading to fascism. The next step for Huckabee will be concentration camps and gas chambers for the final endlösung.
Will --- Please, keep
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:31 — Liced-christ (not verified)Will --- Please, keep scalding the Tea Party with your hot and fiery words. Insult and belittle those renegade fascists, those anti-masterbatory idiots. You have my support and thanks for putting yourself on the line. There are a lot of luke warm, pathetic Democrats out there, still "hoping for change we can believe in". Rip the Republican bastards to shred and rip Obama the war-loving liar as well. It's an all out war now for the survival of the U.S. Constitution. We're counting on you to continue, to get more outrageous in your language.
I will go on record and say
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:37 — MR (not verified)I will go on record and say I have no problem with Mr. Pitt's vitriol. Matter of fact, someone needs to step up and light a fire under the asses of anti-right people (notice I didn't say left), and you won't get that by being cool about it. For some, yeah it may turn them away. Probably because they have a weak stomach because they are being challenge
in some way. But for others, it's galvanization. And what the anti-right crowd needs is galvanizing, because that's the only precursor to action.
Keep calling them the way
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:46 — fredboy (not verified)Keep calling them the way you see them.
The gelded press only echos the words and thoughts of these freaks.
Keep throwing solid, well-aimed, clean punches.
There are only a few real watchdogs left.
It is astonishing that a
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:50 — Anonymous (not verified)It is astonishing that a country such as this one that evolved in part out if the best traditions of the Enlightenment should produce foolish and ill-informed people in such numbers to aspire to high office. WPR is right to denounce them. They reveal what so-called 'compassionate conservatism' only thinly disguises. At the base of the conservative philosophy is a ruthless social Darwinism.Survive who can. It runs counter to every proclamation Republicans make about being Christian because what they really care about is 'success', which normally means money, and that means 'money from myself and a few friends'. The intellectual content of the 'event' that WPR describes is so close to zero that any sensible person should ignore the ravings of the speakers. Those present do not care about this country. I'm not sure that Obama does consistently either. Still to choose between Obama and these scatterbrained and emotionally unbalanced people is a no-brainer. Grit your teeeth and vote for Obama in spite of what Ralph Nader and disillusioned pundits say.
WPR is right to take these foolish people 'seriously' but there's a way to transmute personal criticism into genera commentarl and he doesn't always find it. But his concerns are very well-founded and he should go on being tough lest we be borught down by people who should never hold power, such as Bush, Cheney and all that neo-con klatch who have done such damage to all of us. I suggest we don't even use the names of the Tea Partiers. Maybe with luck they will just go away if we decide not to mention them. It's the best favor we can do the country.
I'm 100% with you.....please
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:51 — Carol Litzler (not verified)I'm 100% with you.....please keek the gloves off.
I say bring it on - let's
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:53 — OldBoh (not verified)I say bring it on - let's expose the hateful party of "No', and the trickle-down rubbish they have been peddling for decades -- all it ever did under Reagan & Bush was to triple the annual deficit & enrich the fat cats, who give to both lobbyists and the GOP (and you can buy the Supreme Court).
I am very frustrated with Obama's post-partisan cool - imagine allowing the Republicans to control the narrative -- are "we" too cool for school? I feel abandoned as I work my toes off to elect Dems in a Red state!
That abdication on our message has not only fostered a rising Tea Party but a depressed progressive movement. Why has the admin been surprised that the supine media docilely give the TP so much press? They sure have the Koch Bros. $$ behind them.
Do we have anyone to speak for us in the public arena?
If there are any THINKING,
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:54 — Anonymous (not verified)If there are any THINKING, PRINCIPLED, Republicans left, they might be the extreme minority now because the policy of god and terror has convinced the densest among them once in power (by hook or crook), they can pretty much do anything under the cover of PATRIOTISM and GOD (meaning organized church politics with power to call the shots).
Once power is given to the densest elements in the society, the society becomes sick and it usually implodes because rationality is forbidden under such systems. It may take a few years like in Nazi Germany or a lot of years like in Soviet Russia. But they do implode with dire consequences for all, especially the densest who becomes the new sleet (slut/elite)!
Mr. Pitt, change nothing.
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:54 — mysterioso (not verified)Mr. Pitt, change nothing. Republicans want to do away with laws and regulations that protect consumers from cancers and workers from accidents. But, when those consumers and workers become sick and injured because of the lack of regulations or laws, those same republicans don't want them to be able to get well either. Keep the hot coals to the republicans feet Mr. Pitt.
But this deserved article of
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:56 — Vic Anderson (not verified)But this deserved article of revulsion would not have ever been necessary, if only Obummer had fulfilled his PROMISE of single-payer for US ALL (in exchange for DEM majorities in Both Houses of Congress and HIS presidency), thereby covering my diabetes and the above deadly diseases of American millions; instead he also SABOTAGED negotiated drug prices, cheaper drug imports, and our ability to cross borders to obtain them. If the Obamanible empathy couldn't convince him to consider the better health of his Fellow Americans in that the DEM right fringe of the Miserepubilkan party is to be avoided at all costs, then nothing in the world will!
Amen Mr. Pitt! I always
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:59 — PJ (not verified)Amen Mr. Pitt! I always look forward to your pieces because you so skillfully voice my anger and frustration.
Go for it Mr. Pitt. I have
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 15:59 — John Rouse (not verified)Go for it Mr. Pitt. I have found over the years that not only do you write well, but you write what is in my mind. We do believe in compromise and discussion of facts, but this is assuming we are dealing with a rationale antagonist with the same view as ours of making our country better. We are dealing with folk who get their information from a 3rd world network, FOX. I'm tired of arguing that the sky is blue when Fox tells its listeners that it might be pink. I have lost many acquaintances over this and am a better person for standing on my principles. Keep it up dude.
Thank you, sir. Fantastic
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:01 — Ronnie (not verified)Thank you, sir. Fantastic article! I was not aware of Huckabee's burnt-down house comments, but I'm glad to know someone is addressing them. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, Dr. Pitt, keep on
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:03 — jwa1313 (not verified)Thanks, Dr. Pitt, keep on speaking truth to the repug mobs. Alan Grayson (another truth-speaker) had it exactly right when he laid out perfectly the repug health-care platform:
1. Don't get sick.
2. If you do get sick, die quickly
I get what Huckabee was
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:04 — Anonymous (not verified)I get what Huckabee was saying. But, the Health Insurance industry does not fit the free market model. It needs to either be non-profit, or universal paid for with taxes. I prefer the latter.
Mr. Pitt, keep fighting the
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:08 — Miss_Fritz (not verified)Mr. Pitt, keep fighting the good fight. As for "insurance," life and health can not be insured, they are subject to the laws of nature, not man. Universal health care is the only humane resolution to the crisis. By the way, how much do you think Mr. Cheney's heart implant cost us taxpayers? He has lifetime, first-rate health care for the honors he's done our country.
you go, buddy.
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:09 — Anonymous (not verified)you go, buddy.
Keep the gloves off,
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:13 — Michael M. Hughes (not verified)Keep the gloves off, especially when it comes to "Christian" hypocrites like Huckabee who apparently hasn't read a word uttered by his savior—you know, the little things Jesus encouraged like caring for the sick and poor.
Despicable hypocrites deserve to be exposed and no niceness is required.
The problem with insuring
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:18 — Peaches (not verified)The problem with insuring sick people is that it costs
insurance companies money. Actually, any well person has a chance of getting sick, and so is risky.
Insuring dead people against illness is clearly the way to go, since they don't suffer from illnesses at all.
Mike Huckabee might want to refine his message:
public health care for the dead - only the dead.
If you don't have health care, don't worry. Eventually you will.
Huckabee's analogy is
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:22 — Mike (not verified)Huckabee's analogy is faulty. A valid analogy would be if you went to get health insurance for the ill person the day after he or she died.
Of course it's all a moot point when you remember that the free-market insurance industry is in business to make a lot of money and that only happens when they take in far more than they give out. Denial of insurance is not a healthcare issue -- it is a greed issue and is therefore very American.
But wait: if they were to insure dead people then the insurance companies would presumably never see a claim and the premiums would be clear profit. With all the current interest in zombies, the insurance companies could open a entirely new market by insuring that the dead would not come back to life.
It could work. I can think of about 20% of the population that would go for it, especially if Obama declared his opposition to insuring the dead. I can just see the placards at the next TP rally ...
I LOVE your tone and would
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:23 — emberAZ (not verified)I LOVE your tone and would be sorry to see it change. I agree with you and thank you for your particular insight to so much of the yuk which fills our lives these days.
Keep the tone, the content,
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:28 — Anonymous (not verified)Keep the tone, the content, and the perspective. Voices in the wilderness are routinely asked to tone it down. I've enjoyed your work for several years.
As an outsider (I'm English)
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:29 — Anonymous (not verified)As an outsider (I'm English) I don't share the view of many correspondents that Obama has been a failure. It seems clear to me that he is facing up to a vicious and well-funded campaign from the Right to discredit him, and it's disappointing to me that progressives are joining in with the campaign. The fact that not a single initiative he's proposed has been supported by a single Republican indicates that this isn't a question of reason, but of kneejerk, partisan reactions: he's a Democrat (and black too!) so he has to be brought down.
Given that climate, I think his performance so far has shown about as much courage as you could reasonably expect. He's facing a whole system that is dysfunctional and his room for manoeuvre is severely limited. I feel that, instead of attacking him, progressive Americans should be trying to discredit his enemies. The biggest difference between conservatives and progressives in America is that conservatives bury their differences and co-operate while progressives argue among themselves and risk ending up collaborating with the conservatives.
A major mistake liberals
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:29 — webfoot doug (not verified)A major mistake liberals often make is in assuming that others are as devoted to rationality, facts, and empathy as they are.
Hence, the Values people really don't care if they come across as irrational and cold-hearted to the rest of us. That's not they way they think..
Several years ago, I confronted an old friend who kept forwarding me hateful, often racist, inaccurate, professionally-created right-wing emails.
When I pointed out that a quick check with Snopes showed how false they were, he responded "I don't care if they are exactly true, they resonate with me.'
What we need to worry about is why a significant portion of the American electorate feels the same way about the nonsense coming from that Values convention.
Two points: 1. The majority
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:32 — Jared Dreyfus (not verified)Two points:
1. The majority of us are one job loss away from the potential of being a "burned down house". If your COBRA expires, or, more likely, you can't afford it, you are finished.
2. The answer to "anonymous" above who wonders why anyone would buy insurance before they get sick ? Like the answer to most other questions about our health care system: Single Payer. Everybody pays, everybody benefits. California is trying to install such a system. The rest of the industrialized world already have them.
I love your
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:32 — Debbie Frederick (not verified)I love your articles...hardly read anyone else any more. You have the guts to say what everyone in their right mind should be thinking... and saying. I fear for this country, and this world, with those mean-spirited, bigoted, selfish lunatics spouting their filth to crowds of unhappy people looking for someone to blame. Don't stop telling us the truth... even if you're just saying it to the people who already know you're right. Thank you!
Keep on keeping on!
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:32 — Anonymous (not verified)Keep on keeping on!
Sheesh, WRP! I've been
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:33 — Komodo (not verified)Sheesh, WRP! I've been calling them 'sick bastards' for the last decade; what took you so long??? Even gentlemen put on their man-pants and take off their gloves once in a while. Besides, what else do you call vicious, spaced out, moonbat, narcissists? You know what they say: "If the label fits..."
And just to put a fine point on things: Ms. O'Donnell never dabbled in witchcraft; she lies. Witchcraft is a nature based religion whose basic philosophy predates Christianity, therefore it is called The Old Religion. In order to have a Satan as the anti-Christ, you first must have a Christ. And I've NEVER heard of a wicca with "blood spatters on the altar" as Ms. O'Donnell has described and would have us believe. Salt, yes. Water, yes. Incense, yes. Candles, yes. Blood??? Good heavens (yuk) NO!!!
If you took away the Right's ability to lie, they'd have absolutely nothing to say!
Mr. Pitt, please continue to
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:33 — Surfdevil (not verified)Mr. Pitt, please continue to blast the "sick bastards" at every opportunity. Republicans who taut themselves as Christians (and that covers most of them) don't know the meaning of the word. Christian hypocrites is what they are. So, by all means, keep up the good work.
As is typical, there is an
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:33 — Tarheel Rambler (not verified)As is typical, there is an elitist attitude that is terrifying in its scope. And Republicans have the gall to accuse Liberals of being elitist. Huckabee can get away with outrageous statements like those comparing pre-existing conditions to a burned out house because the media won't hold his feet to the fire. Thankfully, there are forums like this that attempt to get the word out.
This is particularly weird
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:34 — Anonymous (not verified)This is particularly weird considering that Huckabee has diabetes.
Please do NOT listen to
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:37 — Anonymous (not verified)Please do NOT listen to those who urge you to trod the middle ground. The Right Wing Fuckabee, err I mean Huckabee is mean as a snake. The Witch is nuts. The queen of Alaska needs a good horsewhipping, the candidate who lost to the Black President is sad and suffering. Etc. and so on. The aforementioned and other Republicans show NO MERCY to others -- so what goes around comes around: no mercy for them. They are a sick bunch.
Keep up the good fight Mr.
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:38 — Uncle Joe (not verified)Keep up the good fight Mr. Pitt. We're not going to win this fight until we are as angry as they are. The Brownshirts in Germany and the window-pounding repuglican screamers in Florida 2000 were a minority but they were loud, forceful, determined and willing to go all out. Until we fight fire with fire we will continue to dissolve into a balkanized fear-ridden corporate state. We are a majority, but our pride in being 'reasonable' is killing us.
Which countries rationed
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:39 — tommtd1of11 (not verified)Which countries rationed health care? Europe And canada. These are the countries it with their people die. These are the countries with inferior medical care.
This is the reality Of socialized medicine.
Don't believe me? Search Youtube for Robert Reich and we're going to let you die. He Sally tells his audience
The rhetoric of this
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:40 — Harry (not verified)The rhetoric of this movement is alarming. Chris Hedges' recent book "American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America" is right on target. This is a rapidly evolving social and political movement with all of the classic characteristics of fascism. I have interacted with members of this movement, and I know they have nothing but contempt for non-members. There is no dialog, no mutual respect, no trust, no recognition of non-members as moral human beings. With state power, they would doubtless discipline and punish entire segments of our population. They are capable of bringing widespread suffering into the world.
Interesting.... Sarah
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:40 — Anonymous (not verified)Interesting.... Sarah Palin's youngest son, born with Down's Syndrome, and the Odd-But-True Duggar Family's latest very premature daughter both have pre-existing health conditions. They will carry these health issues forever. I wonder if their parents would be happy to leave them uninsured when they are no longer able to be covered under their parents' health policies?
And we thought "Hitlerism" was stamped out in WWII. The Right Wing Republican Radicals have succeeded in its resurrection!
I can't help but wonder if
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:41 — Powerpuff (not verified)I can't help but wonder if Supreme Court Justice Roberts feels like a burned down house since he has a seizure disorder.
Anyone who wants to defend these rotten *I got mine, I want yours and by the way FOAD* subhumans known as tea party and republican, might as well face it, they are fools. Things have such a way of biting us in the butt.
Just recently I saw two people get their come-upins. I still believe in Karma.
Golly it's good to hear
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:42 — Billy-Bob (not verified)Golly it's good to hear someone truth (yeah, that's a verb we need to create - we're desperate for it) without pulling punches in case Murdoch or Ailes are looking over his shoulder.
We ALL need to start truthing, fast. The lies and propaganda from the right (everyone right of, say, Nancy Pelosi) are gagging us and in danger of asphyxiating America.
Thanks, boy, for truthing.
What can one expect from a
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:42 — Anonymous (not verified)What can one expect from a man who allowed his kid to cruelly murder a harmless dog?
On another blog, I pointed
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:44 — Anonymous (not verified)On another blog, I pointed out to a supporter of Huckabee's hypothesis, after he cited that AIDS/Cancer patients are pre-existing conditions and not to be covered, I exclaimed: You're cruel! He replied, not cruel, but matter-of-factly that healthcare was a privilege, not a right.
He went on later, as others chimed in to further criticize such a stance and his disposition, that in fact, he had been molested as a child, and he'd prayed and was a less angry person because of it.
I pointed out that in many states, having been molested as a child would constitute a pre-existing condition, and that having casually disclosed this on a blog could, should he ever apply for individual coverage, permanently terminate his coverage for life (not to mention a possible lawsuit from the insurer for falsifying an insurance application.)
The point is: these Repubs are completely absolute, and as such, militantly hold the party line, no matter if their interests aren't served by them! In other words, LET THEM HAVE IT!!! Don't consider telling the truth NOT an option!!!
Thank you Mr. Pitt...the
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:47 — Anonymous (not verified)Thank you Mr. Pitt...the attack on "value's" is affecting/effecting most, it not all, social constructs; such as social security, unemployment insurance and as pointed out, health insurance...I think I'll gather up a thick stack of community mental health org's. business cards and the next time I personally hear someone speak to me about "social conservatism" hand them a card and ask them to seek help; we must continue to show compassion, are we not?
Single Payer system. This is
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:52 — Anonymous (not verified)Single Payer system. This is the answer. Look to other country's and garner the best from all the systems- many country's have had public health systems for decades- of course it is typical of us, we are like a wealthy country run by adolescents- all energy, no experience and a incorrect belief that we know everything....what can you expect from such a young culture?
It is not just Mike
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:52 — Anonymous (not verified)It is not just Mike Huckabee's philosophy for members of the 70% Majority Common Population who get sick to just die without medical assistance to deter or eliminate the sickness, it is the whole Republican Party, as well as their Tea Party.
I admire your writing very
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:53 — AnonymousK (not verified)I admire your writing very much, and even though I was not among those who complained about its bitter tang, since you brought it up, I'm not too concerned about those hordes of "on the fence" voters you will chase over to the republican side. For the most part,they aren't reading you, and we both know that. I think your piece today was very fine, as most of them are, and as long as you stick to pointing out specific faults in the conservative leadership, you help me refine my position and so better persuade any "on the fencer's" I may encounter. I did have a problem with the way, in some recent postings, you ridiculed the tea party base. To point the finger and laugh at those pathetic, under-educated sheeples with their mis-spelled signage and tragic dental work is a waste of your gifts, and of your readers time. Also, it just isn't classy, and you are a class act.
Reading about Huckabee's
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 16:58 — Slim (not verified)Reading about Huckabee's rant, I couldn't help but think of the Dick, Cheney.
By current insurance company standards, he would have been denied insurance upon being elected to Congress, having had his first (of 5) heart attacks at age 37.
He is only alive today by virtue of being insured (by us, the taxpayers). By rights, he should be dead. He's a burned down house, and I for one, never had any use for him.
Only a crass materialistic
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:00 — Giovanna Lepore (not verified)Only a crass materialistic society would compare living creatures to either burnt down houses or cars to get the sort of pro-profit health "care" they can most profit from at the expense of the rest of us. Do you feel the big chill descending?
It never ceases to amaze me
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:00 — Anonymous (not verified)It never ceases to amaze me that it has taken this long for...what...some Americans to see what has been happening for decades. Here's some suggestions for those that popped out recently. 1)Get rid of your Tv or at the least cancel cable/dish. 2)Cease and desist patronizing corporate establishments(do your best). 3)Dramatically alter your life to a more sustainable lifestyle. 4)Research, research, research. 5)Support hackers. /b/ is just getting warmed up. Good day.
Huckabee's arguement is
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:00 — Anonymous (not verified)Huckabee's arguement is valid, although not in the way I think he intended. This is precisely why health care insurance doesn't work with a free market, for maximum profit, your only insured until you need it, house always wins, casino model.
President Obama took universal health insurance off the table very early on to appease very powerful special interests and from then any real reform was doomed.
Now it will be picked apart piece by piece and we will end up right back where we started. Private insurance for the rich, the rest of you just get in that line over there.
These cats know that we are not going to just let millions die on the streets due to lack of insurance, they know that the government will pick up the tab, in other words, you, me and Mike Huckabee.
Huckabee has, indeed, hit a
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:01 — Anonymous (not verified)Huckabee has, indeed, hit a new low. Perhaps he needs to go back and read With this whole group, their arrogance is only exceeded by their ignorance.
I think the Rev. Huckabee needs to re-read Matthew 25:31-46.
Every sane, thinking person
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:02 — Anonymous (not verified)Every sane, thinking person should put on boxing gloves and spread the words of Mr. Pitt who speaks the truth. This Dominonist, National Christian Movement, Far Right Tea Partiers and their entire gang are funded by many but David Koch (Industries) can be held for much of this mayhem as Koch funding to the Tea Party has allowed them to gain additional millions by uniting church and state for their dangerous notions of ethics and morality. Theirs, especially Huckabee and Sam Brownback of my state of Kansas want to turn this nation into a theocracy with Koch variety Liberalism which smells more like anarcho-totalitarianism for all their corporate friends are dangerously duplicating like bed bugs and are a threat to democracy.
Rep. Alan Grayson has it
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:11 — billnbilliskid (not verified)Rep. Alan Grayson has it right. The Republi-WON'T's health Care Plan is this: DON'T GET SICK!!! and if you DO? DIE QUICKLY!!! ANY American who votes for a regressive Republi-WON'T in November is at risk of shooting himself in the foot. The only ones who will be able to get Medical help will be the VERY RICH. Ignorance is bliss for these "Know Nothing" Imbeciles who latch on to the "Tea Party" propaganda like it was Manna from Heaven. Beware, all you Mad Hatters, it'll be "OFF with your Head", if you vote the dull and ignorant into positions of power. Don't say you weren't warned.
Keep the gloves! never
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:13 — ebishop (not verified)Keep the gloves! never surrender right? how to fight a bully? never negotiate with a terrorist etc. You have every right to keep speaking the truth about the people in this country that have chosen power and money over doing their job of governing for all. One absolutely cannot give in and appease a bully, the bully simply views that as weakness and pushes back even more. The truth is the only weapon to use.
“I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell.” Harry S Truman
Of course it's a failed
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:13 — Kristin (not verified)Of course it's a failed business model to insure burned buildings -- that's why we should have adopted single-payer healthcare years ago and gotten it out of the place of employment and away from profit-making insurance companies. Healthcare is a human right - not a commercial commodity. Now we have businessmen and values voters making our healthcare decisions -- incredible! When will people wake up and fight to make capitalism work for people and not the other way around? William, I value your thoughts. We need people like you who tell it like it is.
I don't believe the average
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:15 — primbul (not verified)I don't believe the average republican is barely capable of any genuine shame or empathy at all.
In my own research in the Journal of Personality
Disorders, I found that a lack of empathy was the best predictor of violence, even after taking into account general psychopathy. The prevailing ideology of self-interest is completely psychopathic, but we accept it because it is collectively incarnated. The problem is that it
only takes a few self interested people to make empathy a losing strategy - how many times must one's empathy be abused by another's self interest before we defect to their ideology? Rifkin seems realistic about the difficulty in resocializing people to be empathic, but I of course would be pessimistic.
Here is rather eye-opening: search terms RSAnimate, Empathy, Rifkin on YouTube
Will- Please, please,PLEASE
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:34 — Anonymous (not verified)Will- Please, please,PLEASE keep up your raging comments.
My brother, on Medicaid because he can no longer work and afford insurance, is dying from melanoma. His Medicaid has been canceled 7 times over the course of his treatments for no explainable reason and each time they tell him "OOPS, but don't worry it's all straightened out." Picture a man barely able to stand waiting on line for four or five hours to get help paid for with taxes he contributed to all his life. We are convinced they are waiting for him to give up so they can get him out of the way...one less good for nothing to help. We need a better way to help those that need care.
Heaven help us. Huckabee, the Repubs and all their ilk are a disgrace. Where is the compassion for our fellow human beings. These people think they are true Christians and patriots???? Don't make me laugh!
I call them Renazicans,
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:37 — Anonymous (not verified)I call them Renazicans, Renutsicans, Rethuglicans and Satan Fellatin Republicans. They use to be your neighbor down the street who disagreed on ways to fix the problem, but they wanted to fix it! The GOP has gone for class hatred, thinly veiled racism, xenophobia and intolerance as a strategy and abandoned the middle entirely. They care more about their party and their Fascist agenda than they do about America. Especially Americans who aren't affluent.
Bring back Pre-Existing
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:44 — Twinz48 (not verified)Bring back Pre-Existing conditions:
Vote Republican.
KEEP THE GLOVES OFF__GIVE
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:44 — Anonymous (not verified)KEEP THE GLOVES OFF__GIVE "EM HELL
They will put us in camps, given the chance
I always read Pitt before
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:50 — Anonymous (not verified)I always read Pitt before anyone and not because he's the lead article on Truthout, which he deserves. He exposes the right wing villains for exactly what they are in much the same way that Ed Schultz does on his cable show. We need reporters and commentators who have the passion and emotionality to get people riled as well they should be. You're one of my heroes, Pitt, and keep telling it like it is.
You are right on the money.
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:53 — Anonymous (not verified)You are right on the money. To hell with those wicked sons and daughters of Satan who call themselves conservatives.
As far as I am concern, they are the enemy and we should treat them as such.
THE REPUGS ARE MOST
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:56 — Leslie Walsh (not verified)THE REPUGS ARE MOST DEFINITELY SICK BASTARDS. We all really need to put gloves on because the Sick Bastards are so nasty and despicable they should be shipped to a cage where they belong. Do not mitigate your thoughts and feelings, WRP, it's why we love you.
A fan,
Leslie
My view from Canada is the
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:56 — FW (not verified)My view from Canada is the same as that from the respondent from the UK - it's not Obama's fault - seems from my perspective to be doing the best he can with the tools he has.
And please - in response to the person who claimed that Canada has an inferior health care system that lets their people die - talk to a Canadian, please. Our system is GREAT, and is perhaps one of the reasons why life expectancy in Canada is greater than it is in the US.
Honestly, it is depressing that such a great country as the US, with so many great people, can have such awful governance. Please, for your sake and the rest of the world, move heaven and earth to ensure that you do not inflict another George Bush or clone onto the world. And before you dis Obama on any issue - just ask yourself how Dubya would have handled it; Obama looks pretty good by comparison, eh?
Thank you, anonymous English
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:57 — Beakie (not verified)Thank you, anonymous English outsider! I agree whole-heartedly with your comments. Rise up, Progressives and fight and stop throwing mud on Obama, dammit.
A question. Is any democrat
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 17:59 — mysterioso (not verified)A question. Is any democrat going to run against Obama in '12?
It's high time for anger. So
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:00 — BB (not verified)It's high time for anger. So go to it, Will Pitt. There's plenty of insane, unfocused anger on the right; it’s about time reasonable, rational, intelligent people got angry right back.
Who among us isn't fed up to here with rightwingers demonizing "liberal," which simply means (according to those godless liberals, George and Charles Merriam and Noah Webster) "open-minded."
Anyone with an ounce of gray matter who's been following the war on "liberal" since Karl Rove got his first big job spinning the 1972 Nixon campaign knows that most people who sympathize with but can’t define the Tea Party platform, and who clamor to "take our country back," and who think Obama is a Kenyan socialist with Muslim/Communist sympathies, and who idolize crackpots like Sarah Palin and Rand Paul, and who eschew their Republican roots (Barry Goldwater was pro-choice and hated religious fundamentalism) deserve all the anger, vitriol and outrage we can muster. They refuse to engage in meaningful discourse, or even agree to disagree. That’s what decent Americans used to do. They have no ideas for making things better. They have no respect for anybody. But they're very good at name-calling and fomenting false outrage. They call themselves patriots (the last refuge of a scoundrel, according to Samuel Johnson in 1775), and they've shown us time after time that they don't really give a damn about other Americans or even their own country. So it's high time the gloves came off!
We used to be a fairly civil society. But make no mistake about this: Democrats didn't start this fight. It's been a concerted, well-funded effort by a few, very cynical powerbrokers, scooping up an astonishingly dense and naive lunatic fringe along the way, to demonize anything that smacks of open-mindedness. They don’t want open-minded population. They want an uneducated population that marches in lockstep, like the brownshirts of the Third Reich. Goebbels is dancing in his grave.
Remember Hillary Clinton being derided for her comment about the "vast, rightwing conspiracy?” Would that we had listened.
The open-minded half of the political spectrum has been systematically dismantled over the years under our very noses; undercut by an ultra-wealthy, astonishingly greedy, totally corrupt few and the lunatic fringe they've brought out of the woodwork to do their bidding. We didn’t want to believe it — it couldn’t happen here in the good old Land of the Free.
But we still have one very powerful weapon left in our arsenal. Laugh if you will, but if we don't get out in droves and VOTE in November, we might as well kiss the United States of America good-bye.
Worried about "big government?" Concerned about "losing our precious freedoms?" Wish we'd stop sending our youth off to die in pointless wars? Don't understand why huge, global corporations don't pay their fair share of taxes like you and I do? If Republicans win big in November, we'll have more than a tea party to contend with. It will be "welcome to 1933 Germany" time.
So keep on keeping on, Will Pitt. Get angry. And all of us had better get off our duffs in November and VOTE THESE SICK BASTARDS DOWN!
A glaring error in
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:02 — Anonymous (not verified)A glaring error in Huckabee's lame diatribe. When your house burns down, its gone. When you get sick, you're still here, alive, human, and can get well if cared for.
Beyond lack of empathy . . .
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:03 — Anonymous (not verified)Beyond lack of empathy . . . failure of imagination? lack of information? How many realize that the "pre-existing condition" for which they or their loved one could be denied may not be cardiovascular disease, cancer, diabetes, Parkinson's, MS, or another serious condition. Mine, according to the panel to whom I appealed, was a combination of having been treated for a urinary tract infection and for a slightly ruptured disk within the previous 36 months. (And turning 55, I suspect.)
Fortunately, my state has a health plan through which I can't be denied insurance as long as I can pay for it . . . at a rate much lower than I would have paid for the same policy on the open market, as it has turned out . . .
American Nazis. They're
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:04 — Anonymous (not verified)American Nazis. They're sick alright and ought to be locked up. They're not only sick, they're very DANGEROUS to normal people who just want to live in peace.
Re the "bemoaning" directed
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:04 — Frank Pitz (not verified)Re the "bemoaning" directed at your writing; that is the problem William. The Brie eating, wine-sipping, Birkenstock wearing lefties, always "turn the other cheek;" whichever cheek it mat be.
They have no guts, there is no fire down below.
You know that as well as I, one need look no further to the pack of gutless wonders who are in charge?
Be as harsh as you can be when writing about the wing nuts William, it is always a pleasure to read. If the gutless wonders who call themselves progressive have a tsk, tsk, problem then you should write harshly about them also...someone needs to slap the dog**** out of them.
But then, it matters not, you ain't going to change it. The system needs to implode William, then perhaps we can rebuild it without politicians and their minions.
The Tea Party, whatever it
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:04 — Phoebe (not verified)The Tea Party, whatever it started out as, is now just the far right wing religious hate-and-fear-mongering fruit cakes. How could one begin to tell the truth about these people without taking on a "harsh tenor"?
Keep up the good work!
To 'Outsider " English: No I
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:06 — Yankee228/JM of NH (not verified)To 'Outsider " English: No I am not a Republican - least you think this is a partisan issue. FACT is the President promised during campaign that should we get the White House/Congress/ Senate then we could think of SINGLE PAYER.
He never intended a Medicare for all. The Insurance - Hospitals - Big Pharma (Dr. Emanuel etc) WROTE this bill and delivered it to Lott and gang (Lott now admits he 'never read it". Here's what MOST people to this day have NO idea of concerning this BILL / really Medicaid on steroids. It is VERY doubtful given the MILLIONS more that (ha) anybody with pre-existing conditions will receive care. You see - you may have a CARD saying you're 'covered' - SO WHAT!!
Many doctors and hospitals are now re-doing their policies and will 'no longer accept Medicaid or Medicare'....You'll want to READ of how (SECRETLY) much of this bill was by STEALTH inserted in STIMULUS BILL: NOT REPORTED
http://gnosticliberationfront.com/sausage_making__culture_of_corr.htm
As for Huckabee - what a joke. He's (for $$) visited Israel many times (speeches etc). As a MINISTER - never once has he visited or spoke about the horrific suffering of the Palestinians - NEVER.
As for insurance he's always been on the Gov Teat or Mega Corporate coverage - even for his FAT operation (shutting off stomach!). He might want to deal with his SON and his killing of dogs (hanging) before he speaks of VALUES to the rest of us. JM
I feel this way about the
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:20 — Anonymous (not verified)I feel this way about the hatred directed at non-documented people. It's personal. Not because I don't have citizenship status, but because I live in East Harlem in a neighborhood of spectacular people who don't. The language used against these people boils my blood. I am actually someone who practices Christianity. I belong to a faith community and believe in everyone's equal worth as a human being. And yet I find myself in comment sections telling grandmother injustice-mongers to eff off.
This is a new low, even for
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:24 — Harry Thomas (not verified)This is a new low, even for the "wingnuts." We are inching closer and closer to the day when the United States becomes the Corporate States and we all watch Rollerball to distract us from the reality that used to be the "greatest country on Earth." How long before they start turning our bodies into Soylent Green?
I'm fighting with my health insurance company right now over a simple procedure that they so far refuse to cover. And I'm supposed to have "the second best employer health insurance policy in town!" Yet they don't want to pay the $800 it cost to fix my 3-year-old's teeth.
You can't take a 3-year-old to the dentist, shoot her up with Novocain, drill and cap. You have to take her to the hospital, have her put under general anesthesia, and do the work.
I know they are already refusing to insure/cover major illnesses because of genetic heredity. How long before that means that they're going to look up my dental records, find out that I wore braces when I was a kid, and then deny my child dental coverage because of a "pre-existing condition?"
When the revolution comes, I truly wonder who will be the first up against the wall.
Since 6 December 1865, when
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:27 — E_A_Blair (not verified)Since 6 December 1865, when Amendment XIII to the US Constitution was ratified, it has been unconstitutionally illegal to treat persons as property. Somebody should remind Huckleberry about that
I'm surprised that Huckabee
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:40 — Anonymous (not verified)I'm surprised that Huckabee and his minions didn't mention women who have been a victim of domestic violence and who are, many times considered to have a pre-existing condition after the first claim.
The Huffington Post has had several reports on this subject. You can find the current information at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/14/when-getting-beaten-by-yo_n_286029.html
The states that still allow that discrimination are: Idaho, Mississippi, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota and Wyoming.
Getting out of an abusive relationship is difficult at best and, many times, it is also dangerous. Maintaining the right to health insurance should be the LAST thing that a woman has to worry about. I know -- I've been there.
Mr. Pitt -- stay exactly like you are. I look forward to your columns. Someone has to tell it like it is. Most of the media won't so we need writers like you to give us the straight talk. I look forward to your columns.
I'm sorry about your wife's MS -- it's a nasty thing to have. I also have a chronic disease and I can finally get the care I need -- I have Medicare now.
Will, it is your duty to
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:42 — Carlos (not verified)Will, it is your duty to continue speaking for those who can't. I don't know what the reluctance is with writing the truth as ugly as it might be.
America is giving in to a few nuts who continue to receive press coverage for their crazy discourse.
Don't change your style.
Give 'Em Hell WRP! It is
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:50 — Anonymous (not verified)Give 'Em Hell WRP!
It is extremely saddening for me that we, as a nation, have been reduced to to the level of junior high school name calling in our political rhetoric. That it has happened is fact. I believe that fire must be met with fire. Trying to reason with unreasoning attack is folly. So I applaud you Mr. Pitt. Would that I had your bully pulpit, then the world would hear some "shrill" outpourings.
The really sad part is that the "Tea Party patriots" are being played by the "Big Boys" for all they are worth. Never have so many acted so contrary to their self interests. The uber opportunist Sarah Palin, who pushes herself on the ignorant electorate by displaying her daughter on DWTS, advises her contemporaries to speak only through the propaganda bull horn of Fox News. What further evidence of ignorance is required?
When Mike Huckabee's son
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:51 — lambert strether (not verified)When Mike Huckabee's son gets the psychiatric treatment he obviously deserves, I hope nobody compares him to a burned-down house...
http://www.correntewire.com/so_how_exactly_did_mike_huckabees_son_david_kill_that_dog_back_in_the_day_when_he_was_a_boy_scout
"OpenSeason"-a
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 18:53 — Anonarcmous (not verified)"OpenSeason"-a to-kill-hunting-term is what the insurance companies call the time period in which they compete for your business !!
The whole problem with the
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:15 — Anonymous (not verified)The whole problem with the health care "debate?" America never consciously chose a moral/philosophical basis regarding caring for the ill, sick and dying. Should it be a run as a profitable business, or is healing the sick, caring for the dying a sacred priviledge - a compassionate service. Certainly the discussion never even considered whether, in the richest nation on Earth, it was a human right....
The uncontested premise was that healing the sick, caring for the sick and dying must needs be a capitalistic venture.
How is this underlying premise to be reconciled with the Hippocratic oath?
It most certainly will not lead to superior - or even better - care.
The incentive for profits have already led to substandard and extremely expensive healthcare that will, eventually, only be available for the richest among us.
Your anger is well deserved
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:18 — Anonymous (not verified)Your anger is well deserved and welcomed. Would only the Democrats respond to the hateful lunatic fringes we would be a better place to live.
Newt Gingrich is truly a very hateful person with a great deal of street sense that plays well to the hard right. It is a shame that the hard right does not fact check statements like Mr. Huckabee's comment on pre-existing conditions. It is not a free ride for the unfortunate of us who have pre-existing conditions. Insurers can and will charge up to 30% more for our premiums. Lets face it what person over 60 does not have a pre-existing condition.
We live in interesting times when anti masturbating Witch can win the Republican primary. Barry Goldwater would not recognize Gingrich's brand of hateful politics.
Keep it up. It's fun to
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:19 — Berry Ives (not verified)Keep it up. It's fun to hear someone say the truth without couching it in undeserved politeness. Most of those who would read truthout probably don't have much of an issue with the vitriolics. I think anyone who might be offended by the truth deserves to be offended. You don't have to be associated with the bogus "Tea Party" (nothing to do with the original one) to be pissed off.
Dennis Kucinich/Matt Gonzales in '12. DK, time to leave the Democrats and do battle. Screw them. Easy for me to say, it's not my job as stake!
Why is it that the
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:21 — Anonymous (not verified)Why is it that the Republicans are more concerned with the corporate insurance company's welfare that that of United States citizens in general and our returning soldiers in particular (so many will now have pre-existing conditions fighting for the very corporate interests that will deny them health insurance).
Keep up the Edward R Murrow
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:32 — Anonymous (not verified)Keep up the Edward R Murrow reporting of the Valueless Voters brigade. This should be warning to vote against every republican running for office and do so with a smile. We will fight them in the voting booth or in the streets, but we will fight them. We need to send a message that we will not treat each other with such disrespect and foster a culture of cruelty.
The insurance companies are never going to provide reasonable care. They are profit making machines. Today the news reported the companies are dumping children from policies so they will not have to continue coverage. Hey Mike, like cancelling your insurance because the fire was in the house next door. Who in their right mind can behave like the Values Voters? Who can support such mean spirited people?
"So under your scenario,
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:45 — chip (not verified)"So under your scenario, why
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:43 — Anonymous (not verified)
So under your scenario, why should anyone purchase health insurance until they are diagnosed with a medical issue? Wouldn't that leave the insurance industry with only sick people that can't pay the premiums? Sounds like a failed business model to me.
How does your juvenile rant address that Pitt?"
Universal health insurance. You get the insurance when you are born. Period. Use the tax dollars you spend converting other nations and other cultures into the image of America. Oh yeah. Socialism. Well then, lets democratize capitalism and the military/industrial complex. Jeez.
For those who are posting
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:45 — Richard/PaloAlto,CA (not verified)For those who are posting here who think Mr Pitt is being too vindictive in his choice of words in describing the right wingers, I suggest the read Matthew-Chapter 23, to learn what Jesus had to say about the hypocrites of His day. Makes Pitt seem downright mild mannered.
Wake 'em UP Will!!!! Been
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:01 — beechwood (not verified)Wake 'em UP Will!!!!
Been reading Pitt for many years. He's a good writer and clearly getting better these last few weeks. It's quite obvious that facts mean little and their delivery convince few unless matched with personal wit, experience, and passion. I am so grateful to have Pitt fully enraged and exposing these hypocrites for what they are. Thanks and KEEP IT UP!
Do not disappoint me and put
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:03 — Christine Whaley (not verified)Do not disappoint me and put those gloves back on....let it rip, Will! The Tea Party doesn't have the corner on angry, there are plenty of Progressives who are tired of making nice and bi-partisanship...we won...we worked hard for it and we deserve the fruits of that win!
This could of been a well
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:05 — Anonymous (not verified)This could of been a well written article, though sadly it centers on a premise that is taken totally out of context. Mr. Huckabee was quite obviously making a less then sub-par joke. If you wanted to flame him you could of made light of his pathetic sense of humor. You instead chose to fabricate news in hopes of inciting division among Americans. Perhaps with a little bit of integrity you might be able to make a career out of this writing thing...
Actually it makes complete
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:15 — Anonymous (not verified)Actually it makes complete sense, because the Religious Right doesn't really want to be in this world anyhow, they can't wait for the afterlife. So why should any of us with pre-existing conditions think any differently?
A relentlessly stupid number
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:26 — Anonymous (not verified)A relentlessly stupid number of "Go Pitt" comments. Insurance companies are going right the mess of Obummer's legislative victory! Today! In the news! as We speak! (F$%k you Max Baucus)
Liberals are truly hopeless, your military is slaughtering women and children overseas and your're thinking that we've saving muslim women from wearing burkas.
Pitt is goddamn idiot, nearly as shallow and stupid as the "enemy" insurance companies built in loop holes since the Democrats simply had them write the f$#$%king legislation in the first place!
You tell it like it is, Mr.
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:31 — Joseph Sutton (not verified)You tell it like it is, Mr. Pitt. Keep it going.
I received a snail mail letter today from one of those selfish, prejudice people Mr. Pitt writes about. It's in reply to a letter I wrote to the editor of the San Francisco Chronicle recently. Here's what the note said:
"Joe, old boy, you have got SHIT for brains. Get your stupid liberal head out of your ass!"
The person didn't even sign his or her name to the note, nor did he or she leave a return address. This is the type of person who THINKS they're going to gain power this November. That's exactly why all THINKING people must vote this November.
This is a systemic problem
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:37 — kym (not verified)This is a systemic problem that doesn't start in the Republican party. That's just the political mouthpiece. That mouthpiece is scary successful and why wouldn't it be? In the hospital today I heard someone blame her situation on Obama. People are angry and they love listening to other angry people, they're spoiling to be part of a mob. And the Tea Party's the mob, man. Everyone knows it's all cool to lose your mind when your mad and just not going to take it anymore! They're it. The darling of the political mouthpiece. It's smoke and mirrors. What's the root of the systemic problem?
I sure wish we could behave
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:38 — saddened pastor (not verified)I sure wish we could behave appropriately in the face of mean-spirited people. I am sure that the majority of Americans are more willing to yell, scream, call names and spit fire and vitriol as opposed to finding a way to participate in conflict resolution.
Of course the other side would have to cooperate, wouldn't it?
I suppose that would be a cold day in Hell.
If more people would
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:50 — Anonymous (not verified)If more people would say--LOUDLY-- what you said, WRP, we wouldn't be heading back toward the Dark Ages. People are not to be treated as inanimate objects (houses)--we must treat each other as we ourselves would wish to be treated. Yep, the old Golden Rule, or just plain human kindness, That's what the No-ers have forgotten.
And as for all the people banging on Obama, remember the opposition he's had to deal with and how they've hampered every single one of his efforts. I just hope he holds up!
You're the Best, Will! Keep
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 20:51 — Paul W (not verified)You're the Best, Will! Keep it up. In fact, turn up the heat. You and Chris Hedges are both absolutely right. Show these sick bastards now mercy! Expose their idiocy and bullshit everywhere you see it.
And to the comments from the UK and Canada about how poor Obama is trying his best, ARE YOU SERIOUS!!? He kept Bush's Sec of Defense, he appointed Geithner and Summers, who were the overseers of bank deregulation for Clinton, he's ramped up the war in Afghanistan, and pushed through the biggest Defense budget increase since WW2! Doing the right thing? I don't think so. He works for Wall Street and the Corporatocracy. Get rid of him, please?
Thanks Will, for keeping the voice of sanity alive.
WRP is an oasis of sanity,
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:16 — Anonymous (not verified)WRP is an oasis of sanity, lucidity and reason in a desert of hatred, greed and stupidity. Hope your gloves stay off.
It is the wackadoodle right
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:20 — sonofthewest (not verified)It is the wackadoodle right wing that is the problem, not the left. Canadians and Brits seem to want to be realistic about Obama but have they considered that Obama has let himself get hedged by the military who have spoken out in a manner to undercut the commander in chief contrary to the Constitution? And that is only one example, the insurance companies out maneuvered him on health care by getting single payer option pulled before it was even debated.
The President has a lot of power that he/she can wield but they must make the decision to throw their weight and then stick to it --- getting committed to bi-partisanship when you have an intransigent opponent is not living up to the promise of your presidency. This commentator voted for Obama, I am very left, and I stick with him as he is still better than the alternatives but he must exert leadership before the American people. Get out and talk, and not just about elections but about issues!
William, your detractors
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:25 — Robert Walters (not verified)William, your detractors remind me of some teachers I had in school, many years ago, who chided anyone who was so crass as to display anger -- I believe the phrase was something to the effect that anger puts people off, makes them defensive, and less likely to listen to or see your point of view. While that may very well be true, it is essentially irrelevant, as most of the stuff we get from others that we get angry about is, in THEIR lexicon, non-negotiable. So "putting them off" matters not; making them defensive is wholly desirable; and they're not gonna listen to/see our point of view anyway.
To Anonymous @01:05 9/23: Your lame critique is a great example of both crippled sarcasm and namby-pamby wishy-washy pathetic distortion of both the article and reality. Go peddle your pap somewhere else. It is completely telling that people like this avoid posting under their own name.
Will, keep telling it like it is, and if some wimp gets offended, tough bahooties. Don't put gloves back on, and don't rein-in your wrath. The targets well deserve any vehement dirt that can be dished!
Dear Mr. Pitt, I hope this
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:30 — Dan Marotta (not verified)Dear Mr. Pitt, I hope this comment reaches you.
I agree that the bastards are sick and had the very same reactions you described when I read Huckabee's sickening remarks. My wife also has MS and she is hard working and deals with it everyday like so many other people.
My wife (and myself) are on a special diet that, because of it, she does not need any medication. We would love to share information about it with you and your wife if you would like.
We live in East Boston (from a recent article you wrote, I think you live in the same place?)
Email us if you would like, and keep up the good work.
I'd love to have a medical
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:35 — annrosso (not verified)I'd love to have a medical exam on Huckabee and see his pre-existing conditions, because everyone has some inclination that can be identified by insurance companies. Are people really stupid enough in this country to think this won't affect them?
Sick bastards and classic
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:48 — Anonymous (not verified)Sick bastards and classic abusers. There is no "compromise" with these people, as "compromise" to an abuser is when the abused finally agrees to go along with the abuser.
Mr. Huckabee, you sound as if Satan has taken you over! Nah, you'ld just use Satan as an excuse for your own hard heart. Mike, you serve your corporate masters well.
Do you think there's a
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:49 — RoughAcres (not verified)Do you think there's a finite amount of outrage in the human brain? Sometimes I hope so, but mostly, I hope not... because comments such as Mr. Huckabee's must be met with outrage.
According to Mr. Huckabee's faith, all human beings have a pre-existing condition: original sin.
Guess that means we're all out of luck - oh, wait: there's a clause in his religion that if you can find Jesus, you're saved. Kind of like someone with congenital diseases finding an insurance carrier that must cover them, eh?
Don't lose your outrage, Will... just think about taking it and focusing like a laser on the things that absolutely MUST be said to counter these despicable lies and more despicable people who speak them.
They really don't think anyone up there is judging them, do they? Boy, are they in for a surprise.
Keep it up, William, these
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 21:50 — Grania (not verified)Keep it up, William, these people are obscene. The more that realize it the better.
A clenched-fist salute to
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 22:01 — Loren Bliss (not verified)A clenched-fist salute to Mr. Pitt for awakening to the neo-Nazi threat implicit in the national shift to the extreme Right.
Now all Mr. Pitt need do is come to full recognition that our so-called "bipartisan politics" -- the apparent clash between Democrats and Republicans -- is merely the Ruling Class version of the good-cop/bad-cop routine applied to governance.
Beneath their rhetorical smokescreens, each party is equally committed to fascism and the ultimate subjugation of the United States into the de facto Fourth Reich. That's why in my own writing I increasingly jeer the two parties as "DemocRats" and "GOPorkers."
Meanwhile Huckabee's call for genocidal abandonment of those of us who are chronically ill is merely the logical extension of Christian doctrine -- that sickness is divine punishment for sin.
Nor is such a Final Solution really new. Albeit in somewhat more euphemistic form, it is already in place against lower-income seniors and disabled people -- this via Obamacare's methodical war on Medicare Advantage.
Contrary to the propaganda generated by Barack the Betrayer and his henchmen, Medicare Advantage is the only way lower-income people can circumvent the murderously high gatekeeper fees of so-called "Traditional Medicare."
The latter, as I know from bitter firsthand experience (I am elderly, disabled and terminally ill) is in truth nothing more than a health-care subsidy for the rich.
To see a doctor under "Traditional Medicare" requires a co-payment as high as $375. To see a doctor under Medicare Advantage requires a co-pay of no more than $15 or $20.
Thus the DemocRats' destruction of Medicare Advantage will subject me and everyone like me to the same burnt-house abandonment Huckabee the GOPorker now proposes for anyone befallen by seriously illness -- that is, anyone of us implicitly on god's enemies list.
This is indeed war -- class war of the most blatant sort, religious war as well.
Hence I applaud Mr. Pitt's defiance of the whiners and snivelers -- the sour defeat-mongers who have for too many years fatally compromised the U.S. Left by their outrageous spinelessness.
What is needed now is anger, solidarity and militance -- qualities you Mr. Pitt are at last helping build.
To Anonymous, The answer to
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 22:05 — EC (not verified)To Anonymous,
The answer to your question:
Why should anyone purchase health insurance until they are diagnosed with a medical issue? Is simply to SAVE LIVES!
Not only would more people have preventive medical care but also they would receive medical attention more rapidly; therefore, people who are not wealthy and are NOT able to buy life with healthcare, will also be given the small gift of LIFE!
THANK YOU MR. PITT for being
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 22:08 — Anonymous (not verified)THANK YOU MR. PITT for being here!
Bravo!!!
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 22:26 — Anonymous (not verified)Bravo!!!
Mike Huckabee: shoot the
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 22:59 — Anonymous (not verified)Mike Huckabee: shoot the wounded.
Harsh? Well, yes, the truth
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:00 — Fred Norman (not verified)Harsh? Well, yes, the truth is sometimes harsh. It's sometimes shocking. But it awakens us to reality. Please continue what you do so well. Keep us awake.
Any follower of Jesus of
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:10 — Anonymous (not verified)Any follower of Jesus of Nazareth, any honest and humble Christian knows ALL people are God's children, whether they are poor, or sick or ignorant or healthy. God's children are our neighbors and are not to be equated with empty damaged houses or any other non-living thing. Mike Huckabee cannot a very good Christian, if he claims to be one, by his own words. His expressed thoughts in that public speech run opposite to the Lord's own words, as recorded in the Gospel message of love and service to the poor, the sick and, yes, even love for the sinner.
All of the chronic
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:13 — Anonymous (not verified)All of the chronic conditions to which you refer are essentially caused by environmental poisoning, resulting from the same industries (Big Oil, Big Ag, Big Chem, military-industrial complex) that support these politicians. You pretty much never see that connection made. It's not "personal responsibility" that is making people sick. It's what's in our air, water, consumer products and food. It's carcinogens, particulate matter in the air, endocrine disruptors, teratogens, mutagens, toxins that are being ingested, breathed, drank, absorbed by all of us on a daily basis. They are slowly poisoning all of us and making us pay--not for a cure, but for "management" of our poisoned conditions. Talk about adding insult to injury.
In England, because the government is responsible for people's health care, they also work to reduce people's exposures to pollutants, particularly in consumer products. There's a connection.
William, I've criticized
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:16 — Anonymous (not verified)William, I've criticized your writing for sinking into sentimentalist slop, but I am totally with you on these righties being sick bastards. Huckabee leading the pack in their collective mental illness. This character, as governor, let a serial rapist and murderer out of prison as revenge on Bill Clinton, a lunatic who then went on to savagely rape and murder a woman again, while her child was in the bedroom. All while spouting his Jesus hypocrisy and proving once again, how corrupt religion is, and usually has been. They are savages, along with Phyllis Schafly.
I'm very sorry to read about your wife.
The thing that concerns me most, is that these people become the Democrats' excuse to get reelected when the Democrats are sold out to the health insurance companies.
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Right now, the Democrats are
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:20 — Anonymous (not verified)Right now, the Democrats are running scared -- not for the nation, IMO -- but for their own assorted raw political ambitions -- and the fact that they have not represented this nation well in terms of health care -- or we would have Medicare for the entire country opened up overnight.
Let's not kid ourselves that this weakling group of cowards and fanatics hold the power in Washington. Or that reelecting Democrats is the only way to keep the far right out of power. As a skeptic, I must ask if that crew you describe was made to order by our one and only's -- who keep raising the specter of their evil every time they want to go back to office to pass another military budget, hand us over the health insurance companies some more, keep Americans in 4 wheel drives buying gasoline, and keep lying about how high the unemployment figures are.
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Right Tone For The Times.
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:27 — DemocraShe (not verified)Right Tone For The Times. THANK YOU! Playing nice with the sick bastards does not work. They are in lockstep until they can "take over," in the name of Republican Corporatism, and God help the American people once they do. I keep thinking of the dystopian movies like RollerBall and Soylent Green, where nations have ceased to exist, and people live in territories held by corporations. Drowning government in a bathtub and privatizing (corporatizing) everything are worse than cancers, people who should be sounding alarms don't bother, and the phrases catch on. PLEASE keep fighting them with every precise and scathing word at your disposal. I had not read your editorials for at least a year, until a friend sent me this one, and I will be reading here again. Don't give up, and don't appease -- they would never reciprocate. And good luck to you and your wife, I have two friends with MS. 'Way too mysterious, as diseases go.
continued So what do the
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:36 — Anonymous (not verified)continued
So what do the Democrats have to say about that? Start with Max Baucus, please, and no seat for single payer advocates at the discussion table when it's what 65% of Americans wants, 55% of American physicians, the bulk of the nursing profession, labor unions, etc etc. So waving the boogeyman, Democrats, and start giving us some real answers. Because most of you in Washington D.C. are very powerful people, and as much as I don't like the man, i don't believe that Mike Huckabee is your problem.
Great article. I and so
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:46 — Joan (not verified)Great article. I and so many others are beyond outrage anymore. I'm so tired of taking the high road. Bush et company totally cured me of attempting civilized dialog with republican/christian ideologues who have been saturated with Fox's "news". They've shown us they are goons and thugs and did nothing to "restore dignity" to the office of President.. I think of Chris Hedges where he says, and I badly paraphrase here, the republicans accuse people of doing either what they are doing or what they have done. Huckabee sounds to me as though he is actually advocating for the death panels they had made people so afraid Obama and the Democrats would impose when he rails against pre-existing coverage. Hell, WE ARE ALL LIVING ON BORROWED TIME EVERYTHING IS PREEXISTING! And still like zombies, people will follow them. I just don't get it. The stupid remarks by the party's "stars" guised as some sort of party platform, would be hilarious if it wasn't so dangerous for the country.
Idiot @ 19:43, The juvenile
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 23:47 — Anonymous (not verified)Idiot @ 19:43, The juvenile rant is yours. This is why we will be required to purchase insurance or pay a penalty, to maintain a large enough pool. Study up before you start screaming. And thank a liberal that your wife's boss can't hold her job hostage for a blowjob.
Thank you!!! I don't know
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 00:52 — Robbie (not verified)Thank you!!! I don't know how else we're going to defeat the insanity taking over this country if we don't get angry and vindictive!!!
Thank you for stating the
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 01:10 — David Hickson (not verified)Thank you for stating the obvious with this article. These traitorous, rightwing thugs simply need to be called what they actually are: heartless, mindless criminal extremists who need to be eradicated en masse. The time for the figurative gloves to come off has definitely passed when it comes to dealing with "conservatives" and their fascist supporters. These people do not recognize any authority except violence and a prison cell. That is how they need to be treated.
Splendidly angry article.
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 01:41 — Elizabeth (not verified)Splendidly angry article. Keep the gloves off.
I'm so sorry to read that
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 01:43 — Anonymous (not verified)I'm so sorry to read that your wife has MS, such a devastating illness. I know that the standard pharmaceuticals prescribed for it are very costly and have such nasty side-effects profiles. There is something much safer, that is also cheap and effective. It is LDN, Low Dose Naltrexone, and I would recommend it to anyone with any immune-related disorder or cancer.. I take it myself, to good effect. for psoriasis & psoriatic arthritis, asthma & fibromyalgia, & strongly urge you to look into it. . You can find out about it at
www.ldninfo.org
Has anyone else noticed the
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 01:54 — L. Piltz (not verified)Has anyone else noticed the low quality of trolls showing up in this thread? It's downright embarassing how dumb and empty of relevant thought they are. One brave anonymous soul thought he had skewered W. Pitts by asking what's to stop people from never buying insurance until they get sick. HAA!! He's so bloody ignorant he doesn't even know about the mandate. Please find some better trolls. It'll spruce up the humor level too, as the sad clowns in this thread are way too pathetic to evoke any real comic relief.
I have no personal
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 01:59 — Rogue (not verified)I have no personal insurance.
I am an old age pensioner.
However, if I get really ill I get good treatment in hospital. The Government pays the cost.
All citizens of Australia have this health cover.
It works - it works well for everyone, no matter how poor they are.
If it works here why could such a system not work in the US?
In a time when Glenn
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 02:39 — Anonymous (not verified)In a time when Glenn Greenwald--generally (and crazily) regarded as an arch-leftist--spends much of his time playing footsie with the execrable Ron Paul, and draws his vocabulary ("tribalism") from Ayn Rand, is it any wonder that the actual Left is as chimerical to most people as the rhinoceros was to Europe during the Dark Ages?
The Left has been "tempering its extremism" and rolling over for the Right for so long that nobody now has any idea what the Left is (or was).
Hence the comedian Jon Stewart's rally against "extremism" on both sides.
The TeaParty is just a special case of Republican galloping KuKluxism, which gets more and more murderous the more it closes in on the dictatorship that is now within its scaly grasp.
The Left must move left.
In the meantime, buy weapons and form groups for self-defense.
W.Pitt's ideas are sane. As
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 03:10 — Anonymous (not verified)W.Pitt's ideas are sane. As long as political leaders are under the influence of the Heritage Foundation or similar other ones their acts can't be but very similar.
Mike Huckabee is human
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 04:43 — Luis Cayetano (not verified)Mike Huckabee is human garbage.
Here's what scares me.
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 05:28 — bookmanjb (not verified)Here's what scares me. Huckabee's blather along with myriad other outbursts from the wingnut leadership are prime material for Dem political ads. You could just run the clip of him comparing ill people to burned-down houses and then have a deep, authoritative voice say: "Do you or a friend or relative have a chronic disease? If so, Republicans say you or he or she shouldn't be insured because you're already as good as dead, like a burned down house." But here's what scares me, a large minority of Americans who watch such a message would AGREE with Huckabee. THAT'S the problem. It doesn't matter what their leaders say or do; there's no changing their ignorant, me-first minds. They worship cardboard celebrities, measure their self-worth by the dollar value of the crap they buy at Walmart, and resent & mistrust intellectuality. The only chance we have is to speak from the heart and out-number them at the polls because if they win, the great American experiment will be over. Something else born of ignorance and bile will take over, something we've seen before and not that long ago...
As an American living in
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 05:36 — Cypat (not verified)As an American living in Europe I definitely agree with the UK view of Obama's problems. I feel he is doing his best and has been trying to work in a bipartisan fashion. Hopefully, he will give up trying to work with Republicans and Democrats will pull together with him to keep control of the House and Senate.
I know about preexisting conditions--my husband had a spinal injury at 16 and was self-employed. The injury caused a slight paralysis from the knees down, but his only medical bills for 35 years were for a check-up once a year and a couple of sinus infections. He was insured in a group plan in his profession, but in the 1980's when his insurance increased to $750 per month (just for him) we had to give it up. He never collected a cent from the insurance companies.
Huckabee just proved Alan
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 06:26 — Anonymous (not verified)Huckabee just proved Alan Grayson right when he described the republican plan for healthcare. "don't get sick...... and if you do, die quickly."
Tone down your
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 08:30 — WDRussell (not verified)Tone down your attacks??????????????
You should be putting more gasoline on the fire.
In Reply to: Wed, 09/22/2010
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 08:30 — CJS (not verified)In Reply to:
Wed, 09/22/2010 - 19:43 — Anonymous (not verified)
So under your scenario, why should anyone purchase health insurance until they are diagnosed with a medical issue? Wouldn't that leave the insurance industry with only sick people that can't pay the premiums? Sounds like a failed business model to me.
How does your juvenile rant address that Pitt?
That is why health care must either be mandatory (as in the democrats plan) or single payer. Everyone pays in, everyone uses it. Problem solved.
Kudos to you! I suggest you
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 08:32 — Autumn Night (not verified)Kudos to you! I suggest you not only keep the gloves off but sharpen your tongue while you are at it. The republiKKKans have no shame screaming out their lies and racist sentiments. It is time for Liberals to stand toe to toe with these racist bastards and nail their sorry asses to the evil, Conservative wall they have built all around the brains of the sheep that swallow their poison.
Please do not let up on these ignorant, foul racist bastards. It is time for justice and truth to do battle with the limbaughs of the world. I say, if they shout, shout louder. Liberals need to stop being so "nice". Force these republiKKKan assholes to confront their lies and apologize for them.
You can't get too tough for me...keep it up. Oh, and remember that the personal is political.
Aren't Democrats sick and
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 08:34 — Dina50 (not verified)Aren't Democrats sick and tired of being "polite", always taking the high road, always being the peacemakers? That strategy has gotten us NOWHERE in 1 1/2 years! WRP is exactly right--now it is personal--and that calls for backbone and grit. We need MORE people like WRP to start calling these right-wing wackos on their lies and distortions. Screw the high road. It's time to get down into the trenches. Thanks, William. Keep telling it like it is!
To quote Malcolm X, "There
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 08:40 — dazzle59 (not verified)To quote Malcolm X, "There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action." Keep the gloves off, Mr. Pitt -- we need your voice of truth and reason now, more than ever!
Keep up the attack.
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 08:50 — HP (not verified)Keep up the attack. Mainstream media does NOT report or comment on what you do.
Thanks for your words.
William, these people simply
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 08:58 — Robert Cohen (not verified)William, these people simply ain't "Christians" -- they're something else -- but whatever it is, it just ain't Christian.
Well, we can't expect that
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 09:06 — spraguesprague (not verified)Well, we can't expect that they will consider any humane alternatives to letting the pre-medical-conditioned die untreated - such as euthanasia - but do you think they'd consider issuing some cyanide capsules for the worst of us? Private contractors could supply it
Thank you! I don't believe
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 11:26 — Colleen Rain (not verified)Thank you! I don't believe in being other than civil and rational to this kind of talk. Anyone standing on the sidelines whining about "respectful dialogue" or even politeness is not getting it.
Respect is earned and people who have no respect for the lives of others don't get it back. Polite behavior isn't standing around screaming at the top of your lungs about things you nothing because you're unhappy with your own life.
Call them out now before they take our country away. Good on you!
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 07:39 —
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 12:18 — Anonymous Communist (not verified)Thu, 09/23/2010 - 07:39 — Anonymous (not verified) has it summarized precisely!
It is time for all rational people (the vast majority of whom are "leftists") to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights IN FULL! Get yourselves ready to survive the coming Fascist onslaught, extirpate all the Fascist bastards so that what rises from the ashes after the forthcoming second American Civil War is a society centered on humans, not on profit!!
Mr Pitt, I totally agree
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 12:35 — Bruce Sorensen (not verified)Mr Pitt,
I totally agree with your stance! My conservative brother is a moderate, yet when he speaks sometimes about politics it's as if he's parroting Fox News. "News" is of course a lie, it's opinion. Constantly.
I find that the enigma is that CG Jung warned in 1947 that America could go the way of Weimar Germany and be over run by the extreme Right- in league with Krupp and other corporations, including Ford and IBM - but, Huckabee and Koch Industries are a speaker and the financiers here. Americans must unite to protect our freedoms, our liberty, our lives!
As both my brother and I are diabetics one can only wonder at the prospect that a number of these wing-nuts will join the 23 million other diabetics in the USA because of our failed preventive medical system. Our for-profit, racist, and discriminatory medical venders must be eliminated!
The majority of modern nations restrict for-profit medicine. The Swiss actually voted out American style medical insurance! And that was promoted by Swiss conservatives. Teddy Roosevelt tried to advance universal American health care!
One must recall that Hoover claimed " American children will pay for our deficit for years, " yet the Second World War eliminated that debt. The Right didn't want reform of Child Labor either, or labor unions, or regulation of the banks that caused the Great Depression. Living on the edge of bubbles is like compulsive gamblers with a nation's fate, our "free enterprise system," in their greedy grasp.
The Right talks about religion, talks about no taxes [ unless they can finagle a government contract or two, talks about immigrants - the Know Nothings hated Roman Catholics, the nativists hated the Irish, George Washington hated the Germans! The extreme seems to be built of 'primitive thinkers', people unaware of the riches all our people bring to America! Ethnic enclaves tend to integrate here, not stay as 'oddity.'
Time, even time will end this insanity! In the meantime, fight the Right, think ethically, assist the ill, the poor, the hungry, the unemployed!
Thank you!
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 04:10 —
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 14:15 — Erich Von Freemason (not verified)Thu, 09/23/2010 - 04:10 — Anonymous (not verified)
"Any follower of Jesus of Nazareth, any honest and humble Christian knows ALL people are God's children, whether they are poor, or sick or ignorant or healthy. God's children are our neighbors and are not to be equated with empty damaged houses or any other non-living thing. Mike Huckabee cannot a very good Christian, if he claims to be one, by his own words. His expressed thoughts in that public speech run opposite to the Lord's own words, as recorded in the Gospel message of love and service to the poor, the sick and, yes, even love for the sinner."
I can't find any passage in the bible where it says that the government should pay for health care (and tax people, at gunpoint if necessary, to pay for it). How much did YOU give to medical charities last year? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess $0.00.
I'm so glad you wrote about
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 15:24 — Lynn Beckman (not verified)I'm so glad you wrote about this in the way that you did. I almost stopped breathing when I heard Huckabee's remarks. The Tea Party has, indeed, sunk to a new low. The gays, the Muslims, the unemployed and, now, the sick. Hard to believe they can go any lower. Thank you for taking them to task. Keep the gloves on!!!
Do we still need reasons for
Thu, 09/23/2010 - 15:55 — Anonymous (not verified)Do we still need reasons for sending these Rabid Republicans to the hell of their choosing. They make me ashamed I ever voted for GOP...but I will never make that mistake again....I love this country too much to hand it over to those vipers.