The US Military: A Mindset of Barbarism

by: Dahr Jamail, t r u t h o u t | Interview (Part 1)

The US Military: A Mindset of Barbarism
(Image: Lance Page / t r u t h o u t; Adapted: The U.S. Army)

On December 27, in the eastern Kunar region of Afghanistan, ten Afghans, eight of whom were schoolchildren, were dragged from their beds and shot by US forces during a nighttime raid. Afghan government investigators said the eight students were aged from 11 to 17 years.

This incident is but one example of countless atrocities US military personnel have carried out in the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. In Iraq, US military personnel torturing detainees in Abu Ghraib, Iraqi civilians suffering the violence  meted out by US forces, or US forces detaining schoolchildren in Baghdad, the list of atrocities is seemingly endless.

Dr. Stjepan Mestrovic, a professor of sociology at Texas A&M University, has written three books on US misconduct in Iraq: "The Trials of Abu Ghraib: An Expert Witness Account of Shame and Honor," "Rules of Engagement?: Operation Iron Triangle, Iraq," and "The 'Good Soldier' on Trial: A Sociological Study of Misconduct by the US Military Pertaining to Operation Iron Triangle, Iraq." He has three degrees from Harvard University, including a Master's degree in clinical psychology, and has been an expert witness in psychology and sociology at several Article 32 hearings, courts-martial, and clemency hearings involving US soldiers accused of committing crimes of war in Iraq, including the trials of prison guards involved in the Abu Ghraib scandal.

Dr. Mestrovic's books meticulously document how the US Army, as an institution, has become dysfunctional, and how illegal rules of engagement (ROE) are issued by officers and politicians at the top of the Army's hierarchy, but only low-ranking soldiers are punished for carrying out those same rules and orders. As an example, in one of the several hearings Dr. Mestrovic has attended as an expert witness, US soldiers openly admitted they had shot a 75-year-old man who had emerged unarmed from his house, but because the soldiers were following the rule to shoot all "military aged males," neither they nor their officers were charged for that death.

Truthout recently conducted an extended two-part interview with Dr. Mestrovic.

Truthout: Can you describe the process that occurs within the US military that leads to a mindset that allows atrocities to occur? How is it that soldiers commit atrocities like murdering an unarmed 75-year-old Iraqi man?

Dr. Mestrovic: This mindset is rooted in American history and might be peculiar to it. By way of metaphor, it might be characterized by a line from a You Tube video, "Startrekking Across the Universe," wherein the fictional Captain Kirk says: "We come in peace, shoot to kill." In the classic work, "Democracy in America," Alexis de Tocqueville captured this seeming contradiction in American "habits of the heart" with regard to Native Americans, slaves and all those deemed as "other." Tocqueville points out that unlike the Spaniards, English or French conquerors, the Americans went out of their way to pass laws and enact treaties to justify their mistreatment of others. So, for example, slavery was considered immoral, but was legal. Similarly, extermination of the Indians was immoral, but the government signed treaties before it broke them. So-called "witches" were executed only after they were given trials and assigned lawyers. And so on. It seems that Tocqueville captured an important aspect of American culture that continues to this day.

Fast-forwarding to World War II, the US engaged in numerous acts that some historians and lawyers believe could have been called war crimes had the US lost that war. Examples include the firebombing of German and Japanese cities, and of course, dropping the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Fast-forwarding further to the Vietnam War, the US established policies of "search and destroy" missions in "free-fire" zones. The important point is that these acts were justified by all sorts of legal jargon about "status-based" targets (which apparently means that the target is considered "hostile" simply by existing, and therefore constitutes a potential threat).

This sort of legalizing of acts that otherwise might be considered atrocities has continued in the current, long war on terror. For example, it is no secret that John Yoo and other White House lawyers went out of their way to make torture seem lawful. In this and other acts, the government continues to behave in the manner described by Tocqueville.

Focusing directly on the incident in question, there is no doubt that the Army regarded the killing of the unarmed Iraqi man as lawful. The ROE for that mission was to kill every military-aged Iraqi male on sight, and that is what the soldiers did. The victim was pre-designated as a "status-based" and "hostile" target based upon existing American military law. Some may regard the killing of the man as murder, because he was unarmed and did not show any signs of hostile intent. None of that matters from the point of view of the mindset we are discussing here. In fact, all the military as well as civilian attorneys with whom I have spoken agree that had the soldiers carried out their ROE that day and killed on sight all the Iraqi males they encountered that day, no charges would have been pressed against any of them. Their "mistake," from the mindset being discussed here, is that they showed mercy and took some of the Iraqis as prisoners, and then killed them. From their point of view, they were still carrying out the original ROE by killing the prisoners. In fact, they were told not to take any prisoners. But from the legal standpoint of the American cultural mindset, there are legal rules for treating and killing prisoners, which are different from killing "status-based" or pre-designated targets.

It would take us too far astray to discuss the further contradictions in American lawspeak. The more important point is that legal scholars and lawyers in the courtroom cannot agree on the terminology that should be used to describe what happened. It is as if it is an event that literally cannot be put into words. I should mention just some of the legal morass. For example, technically and legally, the Iraqi males were not "prisoners" or "prisoners of war" (who have rights under the Geneva Conventions) but were designated as "detainees." To be sure, there are rules about the treatment of "detainees," but these are different from the rules pertaining to real "prisoners of war." No one is entirely certain about the legal status of "detainees."

The overall point is that the mindset which led to this atrocity is that the victims were pre-designated as targets in a lawful manner. But this mindset only raises numerous legal, cultural and moral issues, and does not close the door to them.

Truthout: Explain why, through your research, you call the institution of the US Army "dysfunctional?"

Dr. Mestrovic: One could start with the observation by Samuel Stouffer in his 1949 classic, "The American Soldier," which still holds. Namely, Stouffer observed that the US Army, like all armies, is archaic and authoritarian in its structure while its soldiers come from a democratic society. Democracy and authoritarianism do not mix, and lead to dysfunction. Stouffer found that commissioned officers are treated almost like royalty whereas low-ranking soldiers are treated as less than full Americans.

I have found numerous, glaring examples of dysfunctions in my research based upon this basic contradiction that was uncovered by Stouffer. For example, I found it shocking that US soldiers at Abu Ghraib slept in jail cells (just like the detainees did) and did not have access to toilets, not even portable toilets. Part of the democratic spirit is that all persons should have equal access to basic human needs. Shocking testimony by the supply officer at the Abu Ghraib trials was that the soldiers at Abu Ghraib did not have access to suitable or sufficient food, water, light or sleep. From Stouffer's perspective, this state of affairs can be described as positively medieval: the "leisure class" (commissioned officers) looked after its needs and interests, but did not look after the interests of its low-ranking soldiers. So much attention has been paid to the photographs regarding the mistreatment of "detainees" at Abu Ghraib, that hardly anybody has noticed the Army's mistreatment of its own soldiers during this mission.

In fact, I have come across systemic dysfunctions in numerous war crimes cases. Sleep deprivation is a huge problem. Sleep should be considered a necessity like food and water, because chronic sleep deprivation for soldiers leads to errors in judgment, including moral judgment. But soldiers told me that they routinely slept less than four hours per day. Another issue is PTSD. I have come across numerous cases of soldiers who were diagnosed with PTSD who were not treated and who were sent out on combat missions despite this diagnosis. Why aren't commanders and commissioned officers mindful of the basic, human needs of their soldiers? Part of the answer might be that in a truly democratic society, individuals would protest and demand their rights to basic human needs, including sleep and treatment for PTSD. But the Army is an authoritarian society, so apparently soldiers have no recourse but to obey. These are among the observations that have led me to conclude that the Army is dysfunctional.

Truthout: Please give some of examples of this.

Dr. Mestrovic: I've already given some examples in relation to Stouffer's observations about the American soldier in combat. Let me give a few more examples with regard to military law. In general, the US soldier gives up many Constitutional rights by joining the Army. The court-martial system is as archaic and authoritarian as the rest of the army structure. Military judges and prosecutors are not the equals of the accused, but are his or her military superiors. That fact alone changes the dynamics of the military legal process.

Let me put it this way. It is a cruel irony that alleged terrorists such as KSM who will be tried in civilian US courts will be granted more Constitutional rights than soldiers who are accused in the military court-martial system. Another cruel irony is that several corporate law firms have volunteered their services, pro bono, in defense of alleged terrorists at Guantanamo and elsewhere, in the interests of protecting Constitutional rights. But to my knowledge, not a single corporate law firm has volunteered to defend the Constitutional rights of US soldiers. Most people do not think about the huge discrepancy between the democratic structure of American society versus the authoritarian structure of the American military. I should end with a quote from a soldier interviewed by Stouffer: "We just want to be treated like Americans again." I believe Stouffer's observation still applies.

(To be continued in Part 2.)

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Dahr Jamail, an independent journalist, is the author of "The Will to Resist: Soldiers Who Refuse to Fight in Iraq and Afghanistan," (Haymarket Books, 2009), and "Beyond the Green Zone: Dispatches From an Unembedded Journalist in Occupied Iraq," (Haymarket Books, 2007). Jamail reported from occupied Iraq for nine months as well as from Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Turkey over the last five years.


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this reminds me of my belief

this reminds me of my belief that the us has always been a warrior nation, starting in the 1600's with the genocide of the natives which went on for centuries. there is a belief by many in this country that we are special. As such, they believe we can do no wrong and everything is rationalized to be good and in some quarters, what God wants.

And anyone who has studied war, can realize that it is dehumanizing. Then, those soldiers return to society and they affect and infect the society which sent them there. This endless war created by bush and cheney, now followed by obama, is another reason we are going into decline. I also think there is karma and ultimate payback for all the damage done with the endless wars going back to the beginning......



"It is a cruel irony that

"It is a cruel irony that alleged terrorists such as KSM who will be tried in civilian US courts will be granted more Constitutional rights than soldiers who are accused in the military court-martial system."

That statement, it seems to me, betrays the author's ignorance of how the court martial system works. He should spend some time talking to the JAG officers who prosecute and defend cases, perhaps particularly to those who have also worked in the civilian system.

On JAG officer commented to me on his experience with a civilian police officer, who tried to "help" the prosecution by skewing his testimony - something that happens as a matter of course in the civilian system but which he saw as jeopardizing his prosecution at a court martial. The notion that protections are slight or that a court martial is some sort of railroading? Just plain wrong.



Obamanible Iron

Obamanible Iron Triangulation, indeed!



Where are the

Where are the sources/attribution for Jamail's claim of a December 27 massacre in Afghanistan by US forces?



The point about the

The point about the treatment of the soldiers by their officers is absolutely right but it is not unique to the US as soldiers in the British Army are "beasted" as a punishment b yheir officers and it is exactly what those soldiers did to Baha Mousa in Iraq too.



In 2008, in Southern Iraq,

In 2008, in Southern Iraq, the US Military launched an unprecedented genocidal bombing campaign. This is fact, that barely flickered across media screens, before fading into oblivion.



You're right. You've figured

You're right. You've figured it out. We are all evil, wicked, murderous people. We are the scariest, meanest, most completely unhinged, bloodthirsty psychopaths that humanity has ever produced.

So, if you really believe yourself, don't you think it is a little odd that these monsters you imagine have done absolutely nothing to you for calling them out?

Isn't your ranting really just the whining of leftist who envies the greater character and substance of the men and women who stand up for classical liberal democracy by putting their lives on the line? Or are you a fan of a pedophillic prophet publishing propaganda in defense of a perverted faith?



Blueskies is spot on.

Blueskies is spot on. Equally clear is that this country, regardless of administration, have been neck deep in it's "wars" since the late '30s - nonstop.
Why do "they" hate us?
Who wouldn't, unless so heavily propagandish/brainwashed as the US general public? But then again, doing god's will is quite appropriate. Of all gods, ours is the most violent and murderous.
Just read your "good" book.
~John L.



And now we are no better

And now we are no better than those in Sudan or Nigeria.



19:04, they have done quite

19:04, they have done quite a bit of damage to those who've "called them out", If someone has a lot more to lose, it's much likely they will. Blacklisting is enough of a deterrant , if you don't play by the rules. People have more in common with each other then they would like to believe, anywhere in the world. The article describes goon pathology that similarly prevades any nation's military.



Time for all warmongers,

Time for all warmongers, bloodlusters, paid killers, and imperial soldiers to obtain a conscience, a heart and a brain. It is disgusting and sad to see anyone, especially on a progressive website, trying to defend what the US military does worldwide and has been doing for decades. There are no "imagined" monsters in Dahr's article or reporting- there are REAL monsters, people who volunteer to go carry a gun for the empire, who are attracted to uniforms, weapons, invading other people's countries. Misguided patriotism, the lure of money and benefits, and brainwashing are no excuse for someone to join the US military which has bases in more than 100 countries worldwide and has long been a violator of international law. Anyone in the military, even if they do not carry a weapon or help load a bomb, is complicit and guilty. Anyone who defends the US military, or who defends the pre-emptive aggressive wars that America loves to wage against small countries, is a part of why this world is so full of violence. The admirable heroes whom humanity loves- Jesus, Buddha, Gandhi, etc.- all of them were total pacifists who would never support war. Wake up warmongers, and become a helpful member of the human race. What I just wrote is especially meant for the commenter at 19:04!



Who are the terrorists? Is

Who are the terrorists? Is it the "war on terror" or the "war of terror"?

Is it any wonder that there are those so-called Muslim extremists who want to strike at the US and its allies?

The root cause of the apparent Muslim anti-Americanism is the unequivocal support given by successive US administrations to Israel, despite its total disregard for International Law, UN resolutions or respect for Human Rights. Israel is always claiming to be the victim but anyone in any doubt about who the victims are in the tragic Israel/Palestine situation should read the book by Ilan Pappe (an Israeli historian) called "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine", which shows
the appalling brutality of the Zionists in 1948 (and later) and which is all authenticated. Needless to say, Pappe's name is vilified in Israel today for daring to throw light on the conspiracy of silence and darkness which applies to Jewish/Israeli atrocities and which were/are little better than those of the Nazis.



Mr. Mestrovic does not offer

Mr. Mestrovic does not offer any sources for the alleged raid on and the alleged killings of the young Afghan men. I am shocked to read that claim. I am intimately involved with the human rights issues in Afghanistan, in contact with many HR organizations and officials in Kabul and have never heard this claim. While I am fiercely protective of human rights abuses it really seems disturbing to make a claim like this and then not to substantiate it.
I'd appreciate it very much if Mr.Mestrovic could get in touch with me via my email contact.
Thank you,
Elsie



I'm sorry, but its the

I'm sorry, but its the military. One of the most basic aspects of being a military man or woman is that you have to have a different mindset than everyone else. We can scream about the "barbarism" of soldiers, but the fact is they have to face a different reality than many of those blogging their outrage. A soldier has to be willing to see blood and not be moved by it. Those who can't should not be soldiers. I am not trying to condone things such as the torture of prisoners or wanton killing of civilians. But to condemn soldiers for a cold attitude toward such things is like trying to condemn a cat for being a cat.



Elsie... You work too hard.

Elsie... You work too hard. Take a break. And while you are at it... read a few newspapers.



We are busily engaged in a

We are busily engaged in a War of Terror..a war that was never necessary. That would be obvious to any thinking person. Have any of the countries that we have attacked ever attacked us ? No ! It would take a person that cannot think for himself to continue to believe..if they ever did..that Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan,etc.had anything at all to do with 911.
Most of us believe, without equivocation, that 911 was an inside job, perpetrated by ones that stood to gain...and it was not us, the little people in this country. Think, people! Who is Pushing our Government to go to war ? One guess. Who 'invented' al Qaeda ? Who 'invented' bin Laden ?
The comment by 19:o4 is exactly the gung-ho mentality that perpetrates and continues this senseless asinine war mentality..and I would bet he is among what he would consider the 'elite' in the Military'..in other words, anyone that was at least a Captain, whose feet never touched the ground. Probably 'served' his obligatory time in the Military, got out and is now a Cop. Most assuredly never walked a single Patrol with a common 'grunt.' I know someone very well that has this same Holier than Thou mindset. I also know another man that I agree wholeheartedly with..20:23. ( I suspect that they may even be related !)
20:26 and I are in complete agreement, as well. It is a case of the Tail wagging the Dog.
Who has control of the World's Money Supply ? Who has the President's Ear ? The American people are clearly not being listened to. We voted for Obama to get us Out of these senseless wars that are destroying our Nation and taking the rest of the world down with it. Now all he does is Dither.
Wake up, people.



For the writers who want a

For the writers who want a source regarding the December 27 killing of children, go to:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/afghanistan/article6971638.ece



I don't feel like I work too

I don't feel like I work too hard, but I have now found several links to the story, indeed widely underreported in the US media. I surely hope that Mr. Mestrovic keeps on top of this and will be able to inform us of the results of the investigation.
Cheers,
Elsie



A personal note to all who

A personal note to all who unequivically condem the troops.
I am a retired 20-year navy veteran, 1950-1970.
During that time, from 17 t0 37, I was primarily shipboard and so involved a an artificer (mechanic) and moving up thru the ranks to become division officer in charge of all propulsion and "hotel services" (ventilation, steam, fuels, water, hydraulics, auxiliaries, etc, etc,) - inother words, operating and maintaining/repairing old heavilly over-used machinery and equipment of a wide variety, as well as various personnel activities and conduct of 30 to 100 people plus a minimum of :military" duties/requirements, you were simply in a vertually hermetically sealed little world with almost no outside contact for news or information other than what is provided by the command, which is zilch.
This is not about me -I was a Chief Engineman, but about the awareness of the average military enlisted.
Certainly that was a long time ago, but the point is clear. While there is more and better information available now, still the overwhelming input is fed peacemeal from above and the mentality is traditional. The soldier who has time and inclination other that her/his own awareness has to make a special effort to do so. It was only after I left the service that I had time and opportunity, and conscience/awareness to catch up and understand just what in hell was going on the the'outside' real world. Enlisted people can be very issolated and in a cocoon of military propaganda.
(not near enought civilians make that effort to become informed of 'facts on the ground' -I'm sure you'll agree), with their greater freedom. Plus there is the reasons many young people have little other opportunities to 'earn' a living in these times.
I don't mean to excuse them from any responsibility, but no troop ever started a war.
~John L.



This article packs a punch -

This article packs a punch - aimed squarely at the high-falootin' national self image most Americans carry around as our birthright. We are exactly as bad as any of the enemies we've fought have been: HItler killed 6 million? We killed at least that many Native Americans. Al Quaida slaughters thousands of innocents in a war against us? Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Sure we were at war. Sure they held targets of military value. But they held throngs of babies and mommies and little sisters, too, who were vaporized along with the tanks and guns we were after. Rationalizing ugly behavior is one thing, but acting sanctimonious about the similar actions of others is even less attractive: it means that some of our enemies were right about us, after all.



While there have been small

While there have been small pockets in the military who have crossed the line (mostly due to the effects of war trauma), they have been quickly punished. The author wants us to believe that the U.S. military is full of barbarians but if you look at the majority of the U.S. military actions as a whole it testifies to how professional the U.S. military warriors truly are, especially given the circumstances and extreme conditions they operate under on a daily basis. The author should be ashamed for bearing false witness and should instead highlight the atrocities displayed by the real barbarians such as the Taliban and Al Queada.



Having deciphered

Having deciphered GaryArnold's message, I agree with what he says except: it is GRAMMAR!!
Sorry to be pedantic, Gary!



Wayne (02/07/2010 @ 14:01)

Wayne (02/07/2010 @ 14:01) I would ask: Just what is the difference between an amateur and professional killer? And "highlight[ing] the atrocities displayed by the real barbarians such as the Taliban and Al Queada (sp.)" justifies professional murder conducted by the US military how? Your apologia is actually way too lame, and underscores the point Dr. Mestrovic emphasized about prosecuting only the "grunts" who have been more than conditioned -- brainwashed, actually -- to 'simply follow orders' of their psychopathic superior officers.



seems with few exceptions we

seems with few exceptions we are generally agreed that the US is again acting imperially. Now what are were going to do about it? Make a little noise and nod oour heads in agreement. Meanwhile Obama has proposed the biggest military budget ever. follow the money. The US government and its associates, the money guys, are going to keep right on going because teh money is who elects the politicos.
What can we do?



You're Right You've

You're Right You've Figured....head is so far up his butt....he can't see light......lol.



"...in one of the several

"...in one of the several hearings Dr. Mestrovic has attended as an expert witness, US soldiers openly admitted they had shot a 75-year-old man who had emerged unarmed from his house, but because the soldiers were following the ROE to shoot all "military aged males," neither they nor their officers were charged for that death."
Dahr Jamail did not think to ask if these "Rules of Engagement" (ROE's) were anywhere documented. Nowhere in the Geneva Conventions is the execution of "all military age males" anywhere condoned. The Military Channel has re-aired a program regarding cadet training at the service academies, which generally conveys a positive image of these young Americans- but in a field exercise for the West Pointers, a trainer is shown telling them "Kill them all, let God sort it out."



perhaps the story should

perhaps the story should focus on what is more pressing. the republic "kingship" system which was first enacted by George Washington and the early consul kings is completely destroyed.

Not by cheney and Bush or Obama, but they like the power of courrse, but by the time WW2 was finished, you had the first caesar of U.S. in FDR. continuous demands for life in office, requests to use nuclear weapons in korea and elsewhere in asia, as if the destruction of cities by nuclear weaponary had truly registered hardly a regret on the conscious spirit of nation claiming all under God. president D. H. perhaps attempted to bring back the system before FDR but was clearly boxed in. Even the mention of MIC did not stop the cold war from advancing thru the very MIC he claimed needs cautionary measures. Achieving and spreading "democracy' with might, but to suggest the republic is intact for points at home.

G.Washington has predicted this country would suffer, if we were to be become allies and fought wars with the kings and queens of europe or anywhere. And if it were to impose the sort of taxes the British had to the early republic it would turn out not worth the trouble of fighting the british in the first place.

allies.......NATO, EU, UK, Columbia, Japan? G7? economic, civilian, military, political allies all kinds, everywhere.

Regardless of whether a system is "coined" democratic or not..... these labeled are mostly inward personal perceptions, does not reflect outward truths of governance's goal in controlling people.

I think there is something more important than all of this. As a woman with jealousy can not hide her emotions, this nation is indeed impulsive to the point of irrationality. Pompey is no california? Was Rome not strong without peers once? the leaders of a nation is selected not by votes alone but by the Supreme power Above. it is up to the leader of the nation, to humble oneself, to find the Spirit, to seek peace actively, or any nation will find itself drunk with bloodshed.



Does anyone have the actual

Does anyone have the actual link for the story referenced in the first paragraph?